suggestions on Outer Banks surf fishing

[Yang Chang]

Hey all:

I am planning to surf fish outer banks next weekend with my 9wt SH and 7wt DH, both equipped with floating, intermediate, and sinking line system. I also have surf rods but I'd rather use the fly rods if it is doable at this season. This will be my first time to surf fish there so I don't have specific target. Just hope I can get some actions. I wonder if anybody can give me some suggestions on season, location, fly shop, and flies? The tide of next weekend is morning and evening high tide.

Thanks!

Yang  

[John Smith]

 

Well, depends on what part of the banks your heading too. My friend was down there a week ago. Redfish (puppy drum) were caught in the vicinity of the Kitty Hawk pier. I have done well fly fishing just south of the pier but within 100 yds or so. The beach south of the Cape all the way to Hatteras Inlet is good too. The beach has a steep drop down that way. I particularly like the beach access immediately opposite the Coast Guard station. On the inside, you could try Bodie Island Lighthouse (walk down the dirt road to the slough on the sound side) or the Coast Guard station at Oregon Inlet (walk back along the chain link fence (right side of station)- there is a deep slough on the sound side at that location). If it were me, i would use an intermediate in the surf and a sink tip in the sloughs.

[Luther Penny]

Go to Outerbanksflyfishing.com  There you will find several articles written by Brian Horsley who is a guide there. In some of the older articles he suggests where and when to go, fly colors (clousers). There are no fly shops there, but TW's Tackle has a handful of flies. I would spend most of my time wading either inside or just outside Oregon Inlet. Good Luck

Open Fly

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[Dalton Terrell]

Just a heads up, Bonner Bridge has been closed, so Hatteras is only accessible by ferry (http://www.wavy.com/news/north-carolina/ap-north-carolina/safety-concerns-force-bonner-bridge-closure). Wish I could help out with fishing but know nothing about Winter fishing down there, but stopping by one of the TWs locations for some tips is a good idea.

Dalton

[Yang Chang]

Hi John:

Thanks for your kindly help! You mentioned about two Coast Guard Stations and I found the station at Oregon Inlet. Is the deep slough called Propeller Slough? I just bought a book "Fly Fishing the Surf" by Angelo Peluso, and he listed Oregon Inlet, Pea Island, Propeller Slough, and Cape Hatteras, et al. 

I couldn't find the location of the Coast Guard Station "particularly like the beach access immediately opposite the Coast Guard station" I wonder if you could give me the detail information of location?

Thanks!

Yang

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[Yang Chang]

I called the TW in Nags Head, and was told it was bait fishing time now, not much actions for lure. The guy suggested me to come in Spring or fall for fly fish the surf.  

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[Yang Chang]

Yes, TW's Tackle shop told me the bridge was closed. According to the information I got so far, I need to think about my plan again and maybe it is better to go Outer Banks another time. I usually go to New England every spring for surf fishing striper because I started my saltwater fishing in Boston area. I will add Out Banks to my travel list since it is only 5h drive compared to 8h to Cape Cod. Which month is the best time fly fish the Outer Banks? From the book I am reading, it suggests to fish Oregon Inlet and Cape Lookout in November. How about the other seasons? Many thanks!

Yang

 

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Just a heads up, Bonner Bridge has been closed, so Hatteras is only accessible by ferry (http://www.wavy.com/news/north-carolina/ap-north-carolina/safety-concerns-force-bonner-bridge-closure). Wish I could help out with fishing but know nothing about Winter fishing down there, but stopping by one of the TWs locations for some tips is a good idea.

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[John Smith]

Deepwater, sure thing-- the spot behind Bodie Island is Blossie Creek i think. Their is a gated access road off the paved entrance road that leads to this creek. You can see Off Island from the shore. This is a great spot in April-May for speckled trout. The spot i mentioned at the Coast Guard station near the boat ramp at Oregon Inlet leads to the same creek as the one behind Bodie Lighthouse just closer to the inlet. Again, i like April-May the  best and have done well on stripers and specks here. The other Coast Guard station i mentioned is all the way down Hatteras Island at the Ferry Docks for the ferry over to Ocracoke. That beach access is terrific Sept to early Nov for bluefish and even false albacore. This is one of the few spots i know of where you can fly fish from shore for albies. Two other fly fishing spots are the south side of the Oregon Inlet Bridge (if it is open)--you can wade out a bit on both the ocean side and sound side before the drop off--look to see where others are standing. Be careful at these spots. I dont think the stripers have arrived in force down in NC yet, but this time of year you can get into bluefish if the conditions are right. I agree that this time of year might not be best for fly fishing but if you get the right wind direction and the surf temp warms up you can still catch em. Although usually the right wind direction for good fishing is right in your face when casting!! Hope this gives you some ideas whenever you do head down. John

 

On Saturday, December 7, 2013 12:16:57 AM UTC-5, deepwater wrote:

[Yang Chang]

Hi John:

Thanks for sharing these helpful information! I found the second Coast Guard Station in the Hatteras Island. I can see a parking lot on the Museum Drive and an unpaved road to the oceanfront, about 400 ft walking. May I park there? There is also a road from the Graveyard of the Atlantic Museum all the way to the tip of the Hatteras Island, but looks like it is an Unpaved SUV road.

As a beginner to Outer Banks, I don't expect too much, just exploring and relaxation. When the fall run striper arrives, is it a good time to fly fish or they will stay offshore?

Thanks again!

Yang 

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[John Smith]

 

Yeah, I park at the Museum lot. It is a short walk to the beach. The stripers and blues are hit or miss throughout the fall/winter. Sometimes they are too far offshore, other times right on the beach. Surf fishing always seems to be like that. The local guys would know more than me but I wouldnt mess with a northwest or north wind. If you get a more easterly or southeasterly wind it can push the warmer water with bait closer in range.

 

ps. BTW, there are some good beach fishing spots on the Delaware Beaches too, which are a lot closer than the OBX. Just something to consider before you make a long drive south.

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[Yang Chang]

Saltwater fly fishing in DE is another topic I am going to ask. I guess we have some members from Saltwater FLy Anglers of Delaware. For DE, I only fished the CHSP once with fly rod. I caught a fluke near the fishing pier and a stingray caught me when I fished toward the lighthouse. Sometimes, I put a fly or a teaser on my surf rod to catch striper, blue, and shad at the north side of IRI, from coast guard station to the bridge. I know it is cheating but I just couldn't find a place to use fly rod. Couple senior fishermen told me they seldom saw people using fly rod there. I am thinking to try SH spey casting on the wall/bank near the coast guard station next time if I can get a chance. The north Jetty of IRI was closed and the east end of the south jetty is another spot I may give a try. I was told it was dangerous to fish from the jetty even I have korkers.

Maybe I should consider to go DE in stead of OBX because striper are there.

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[John Smith]

I dont know too much about Delaware. I tried flyfishing from the surf last Dec. I fished the 3 R's beach access just south of IRI. It looked like a nice beach with a steep slope. Didnt catch anything that day but there was one other guy that showed up to flyfish so maybe it is worth trying again. Just google Delaware Seashore State Park to get the map if you havent done that already. Good luck if you go. John

On Saturday, December 7, 2013 12:16:57 AM UTC-5, deepwater wrote:

[Yang Chang]

Thanks for sharing these helpful information! I will watch the weather and fishing reports and make a final decision on Wednesday.  --Yang

 

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[Yang Chang]

I did go the OBX with a friend and got no bite which is not surprised.

We arrived Propeller slough at Saturday afternoon and started to wade at 3pm two hours before high tide. It was raining and windy. There was a construction at the end of the road and we took the side walk to the water. Didn't see anybody fishing there. My friend casts lure and I cast fly, no bite. We walked to the bridge and saw a guy who was working on oyster. He said we should wade farther to waist deep to find a deep channel. I saw a channel from a fish map in BW tackle but we were afraid to go deeper. He suggested us to go Bodie island lighthouse because it was easy to find the channel or just go to the oceanfront because people were catching puppy drums on bait. 

The next morning, we went to the oceanfront and found the water was very choppy. My friend tried the bait for a short time, and then we just drove around to check spots for next year. I fished a salt marsh for one hour, no bite. The owner of a local tackle shop also told us the Bodie lighthouse is the best place for fly fishing. It is pity that we didn't get chance to fish Bodie lighthouse which was recommended by John, because we had to leave by noon. 

We didn't get chance to go south of Oregon Inlet because the bridge was closed and limited schedule of ferry. It was great to go south and spent a weekend to explore OBX. 

Thanks all for your help!

Yang

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[John Smith]

Well, at least you got out for some fishing. The OBX are one of my favorite places. Go back in April or when you know the water temps are at least mid or upper 50s, the sound and surf fishing is much more reliable then.

On Saturday, December 7, 2013 12:16:57 AM UTC-5, deepwater wrote:

[Yang Chang]

This is the thread I started last year.

I am planing to go to OBX again this weekend and wade the Oregon Inlet area, propeller slough, Bodie Island Lighthouse, or south of the bridge. The tide is not very good, morning and evening low tide. I will take both single-hand and double-hand rods. I wonder if anybody has suggestions and information to share for fly fishing OBX this time of the year?

Thanks in advance!

Yang

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[tperkins]

I was down in early august and waded out from Oregon Inlet Fishing Center. I had the best luck on pink flies. Not sure if that will be true now. Caught a bunch of croaker and even a flounder.

On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:18:19 PM UTC-4, deepwater wrote:

This is the thread I started last year.

I am planing to go to OBX again this weekend and wade the Oregon Inlet area, propeller slough, Bodie Island Lighthouse, or south of the bridge. The tide is not very good, morning and evening low tide. I will take both single-hand and double-hand rods. I wonder if anybody has suggestions and information to share for fly fishing OBX this time of the year?

Thanks in advance!

Yang

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:18 AM, John Smith <nati...@gmail.com> wrote:

Well, at least you got out for some fishing. The OBX are one of my favorite places. Go back in April or when you know the water temps are at least mid or upper 50s, the sound and surf fishing is much more reliable then.

On Saturday, December 7, 2013 12:16:57 AM UTC-5, deepwater wrote:

Hey all:

I am planning to surf fish outer banks next weekend with my 9wt SH and 7wt DH, both equipped with floating, intermediate, and sinking line system. I also have surf rods but I'd rather use the fly rods if it is doable at this season. This will be my first time to surf fish there so I don't have specific target. Just hope I can get some actions. I wonder if anybody can give me some suggestions on season, location, fly shop, and flies? The tide of next weekend is morning and evening high tide.

Thanks!

Yang  

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[Carl Smolka]

Surf fishing from the beach in Duck with a double hand rod can be very productive. Check http://www.surfline.com/surf-report/duck-pier-southeast_5241/ for tide information. Chartreuse and white Clouser or Deceiver will get you Puppy Drum, Bluefish, Speckled Trout, Skate, Stripers, and Pompano. Tight lines.

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[Yang Chang]

Is blue snapper the most abundant fish there? If so, maybe I should consider a short wire leader or heavy mono leader/tippet.

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[John Mathews]

Yang,

I fished the SoObx for a number of year almost daily.  The attached link is a tide table.  That receding tide occurring at 9am is a good tide to fish..  Look for any tidal rips and or eddies and fish them.  Anywhere you see bait running hard, fish it.  Fishing an outgoing tide on an inlet is alot like fishing a river.  Clousers in pink, chart, blue, drk grn over white or a tutti-fruiti color, size 2 will work well.  A few surf candies are good too.  Through the years I found that a 3" fly will out produce a 4" or larger fly.  With being said, make sure you carry a Half and Half in Char/white.  If you run across a feed going on on menhaden, use it.  You might find a surface feed going on so carry a WF-F line and some poppers....that's alot of fun.  One thing, be careful.  The currents can be deadly especially if you're in waders.

Good luck,

John

   

 

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On Saturday, December 7, 2013 12:16:57 AM UTC-5, deepwater wrote:

[Yang Chang]

Hello John:

Thanks for the information, very helpful! I plan to fish from Saturday to Monday, and the tide will change to noon time high tide at weekend. I have clouser with different colors except for the pink, will go to BPS tonight to find the pink bucktail. Never use a half and half, will to try to tie couple. I am going to try the DH rod for the oceanfront. The line is skagit line (floating), with floating, intermediate, and T8/T14 leaders.

John Smith recommended the south beach from Ferry/Coast Guard Station to Cape Hatteras Inlet in previous email. I may start from there and then fish the Oregon inlet on the way back. At this time of the year, should I focus on the ocean side or sound side?

Thanks again!

Yang

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[Bruce Mathews]

Hi Yang,

This is Bruce - I am John's brother.  He does catch a lot of fish.  Has KID Luck.  Anyway, I am leaving Friday PM heading for OBX at Duck, NC.  Will be at Duck Saturday Morning for a week.  I have an Oct. timeshare week in Duck and have been down often.  If you arrive at the south end of the Oregon Inlet bridge around sunrise I have always found some smaller stripers where the water first comes under the bridge.  Out from there and around the rocks (in front of the old CG station) there are often some trout (John and I almost choked an egret one day feeding him small trout from that area).  The mouth of the inlet on the south side had some pretty good rips for stripers when last I was there.  Would probably work well with the two handed rod.  The north side of the inlet is accessible via 4WD from the campground opposite the marina.  You might ask at the Marina store about the condition of the drive down the beach.  A storm some years back took a great deal of the beach leaving access almost only at low tide.  Good trout fishing around on that side.   I will be fishing mainly in Duck in the surf.  If you are there for more than the weekend give me a call on the number below.   We are going down in only one car this year (my canoe is staying home) but we might can arrange to fish some together.  One other place to try if you are  staying down Nags Head direction is the slough behind the Bodie Island Light House.  Park along the fence way opposite the light house and take the gravel road about a half mile to the water.  Typical sound side water for trout and reds.  Good luck while you are there.

 

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[Yang Chang]

Hello Bruce:

I will leave Saturday early morning, and try to arrive the Oregon inlet or south Hatteras around noon time and will leave OBX Monday evening. Is it possible we fish together on Sunday or Monday?

Thanks!

Yang

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[John Smith]

Yang, if you fish the oceanside keep an eye out for false albacore. Down close to Hatteras Inlet the beach is pretty steep there and I have seen them chase baitfish right up on the beach. Should be perfect time of year for those guys. One of the best fly rod fish out there. 

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[Yang Chang]

Hi John:

I am going to spend a full day in the Hatteras Inlet and two half-days in the Oregon Inlet. I have some questions.

After you park at the museum and walk to the beach, do you try to walk all the way the the Hatteras Inlet?

The tide will be morning incoming and afternoon outgoing. What tide do you prefer for the Bodie Lighthouse? For the spot of the south of the Oregon Inlet, do you fish the west (sound) side at the incoming tide or east (ocean) side at the outgoing?

Thanks!

Yang

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[John Mathews]

Yang,

My brother Bruce will be in Duck and I expect that he'll be fishing that part of the OBX too.

One of the ways I used to find fish on that part of the OBX was to cruise Route 12 and pull off at every place that I could cross the dune line.  I'd look for the feeding birds.  Generally, no birds present means no fish feeding.

All so, check the bait shops in the area and see who has the local information.  Follow the crowds of 4X4 on the beach.

I never fished the sound side there but I have heard it can be good.

John

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[John Smith]

When I fished from the beach south of Hatteras I just walked in from the museum parking lot and looked for birds and fish activity right away. I never walked all the way to the inlet. I did fish the inlet area from a boat though. You won't really know what you have until you get there. Hopefully the ocean swell and winds won't be too big.

At Bodie Island I actually caught more fish when the tide slowed down (can't remember which tide though). It can move through pretty quickly in that spot so you need a sink tip or full sinking line to keep it down. That is a good spot if there is an onshore wind (that makes fishing the ocean tough).

I have tried both ocean side and sound side south of Oregon Inlet but don't recall catching anything when I was last there. Just be careful wading those locations.

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[Yang Chang]

It is my duty to report this trip to appreciate everybody's help here.

I arrived at OBX at Saturday afternoon. After I set up the tent in Oregon campground, I drove back and forth the Bonner bridge and then decided to start from Bodie Island Lighthouse. The wind blew from south, warm and humid. I decided to use the DH rod and soon I found my DH skills couldn't deal well with the condition, strong wind and very slow current. I need more D-days :-(  One hour later, the 20 mph northeast wind came and brought a heavy thunderstorm. I drove back to the campground, but I couldn't find my tent! It was rolled over to other site and the situation of other tents were not better than mine. Most of the campers left after the disaster and I ended up sleeping in my car for two nights.

I was exhausted and missed the first light next morning. I also missed a blue fish bite on my fly at the southwest jetty of Bonner bridge. Waded to propeller slough around noon time high tide, no action. Asked around, only one guy caught a flounder in the morning. Fished the southeast jetty in the afternoon, and finally landed a baby speckled trout on fly. My first fish on fly in OBX! 

Sunday morning, the wind changed to south. caught couple small blue fish at sunrise and no action the rest of the morning except an unknown fish on fly. In the afternoon, I met with Bruce in Duck beach and both of us hooked flounders with spinning rods but didn't land them. Thanks Bruce for your help and wish your have great fishing days the rest of your vacation. 

Oregon Inlet is a great place for me to explore. It has flats, sound, jetty, marsh, inlet, oceanfront....everything I need for saltwater fly fishing. Will try to go back again next month or next spring. Over the weekend, I was the only angler using fly gears over there. Maybe I should consider to  take a spinning rod as backup for my next trip, however, it did pushed me to think the fly fishing way when I don't have a backup.

Thanks again!

Yang

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[John Smith]

I was wondering how your trip went. It is tough to time fishing trips with good beach weather. The unknown guy is a lizardfish. 

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[HeaveToo]

Thanks for the update.

The outerbanks can be a really frustrating place to fish.  I love going down there to fish but at the same time it can be very hot and cold.  You have to be at the right place at the right time but there are so many places that look right!

Taking a kayak down there opens some stuff up and I would like to do that again.  Maybe next spring....who knows.

The coolest thing about the outerbanks is that when you hook something it could be the biggest fish you have ever caught at any point in time.  Most of the time it is a small fish but once in a while you get a nice surprise.

[Yang Chang]

I didn't get chance to the south beach of Hatteras although it maybe easy for me to cast with the northeast wind. If I have one more day, I'd like to try there.

The propeller slough is still not clear for me. Where is the channel? One guy pointed to the Little Tim Island but that is too far to wade. I saw most people standing 30-40 yards along the marsh and fishing the sound side with bait or lure. I almost did the same thing, walk along the marsh shoreline toward the bridge and cast around. For the safe depth I could wade, I didn't find any drop and channel.

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[Yang Chang]

Although I have limited experience with OBX, I totally agree with you. I can always figure out a place to fish no matter the tide and wind. However, it can be really frustrating to fish, one baby speckled trout for a long journey. I started fishing in Boston area, and I love saltwater fishing. That is my motivation.

Couple years ago, I asked Susquehanna flsts and you suggested me to get a kayak. I am going to get a light ocean kayak end of this year or early next year and hope I have more access with a kayak.

Thanks!

Yang

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[John Mathews]

Yang,

And so goes a trip to the OBX.  There are two prevailing wind direction on the OBX, SW and NE. Each blows hard with an approaching and passing front.   Any other wind directions are transitional winds and short lived.  Seldom is the time that you get a lull but when you do, usually only during the heart of summer or winter seasons,  you usually wind up hoping it will blow again as the bugs are about to eat you alive or every thing has gone into a lull.   Through my years of fishing the OBX with a fly rod,  I had to learn where I could go to get sheltered from the winds or get them at an angle that I could deal with it.  Some times, I just had to bite the bullet and cast into winds that I really would rather not deal with as that's where the fish were.  During difficult wind time, I would prospect with a spinning rod and once fish were found, change up to fly.  While the OBX is a unique and beautiful place, it can be quite trying at times.  If the fish in the pic 3rd from left id your unknown fish, it is a lizard fish.  While considered trash, they have saved many a day of fishing as the only thing I caught.  They also can get to 2-3 pounds.  Hope your next trip is a better one.

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[John Smith]

Yang, I have heard of the propeller slough but cant really help you with where it is. The place I liked to fish from shore and by boat is from the rocky point immediately behind the Coast Guard Station extending on up to the next point which is a marshy point. Maybe things have changed since i was last there but you could walk along the Coast Guard fence back to that area. The water depth near the marshy point was around 10+ feet when I fished there last. The depth near the rocky pt was much less but deep enough to hold fish. 

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[Yang Chang]

John,

I am thinking to go OBX again in November, maybe the 11/8 weekend. The tide will be morning and evening high tides, and water temperature maybe just below 70. I hope I can bring a better report next month. If I can't make it, I will try to go Delaware to check if the fall run arrives.

Smith,

I saw couple people fishing the coast guard station side. Will give a try next trip.

Thanks!

Yang

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[John Mathews]

Yang, 

That fall run of big blues and stripers on the Jersey/Delaware/Eastern Shore of VA looks like it would be fun.

If you make it to OBX, hope you have a good trip.

I was going to suggest that you give a trip to Cape Lookout National Sea Shore a serious consideration for a fall trip.  False Albacore, spanish, blues, trout and drum.  Ferry to and from or you can camp or rent a cottage .  They now rent 4X4 or you can take your own.  Neat place and a real experience. http://www.nps.gov/calo/index.htm    http://www.davisferry.com/

John

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[Yang Chang]

Hi John:

Like I said, I started my saltwater fishing in Boston area, so striper is my old friend. I have caught striper from Maine to Virginia, mostly on lures. Specs and red drum are something new for me. I caught some red drum with light tackle on a charter boat in Crisfield and was impressed by the fight. If I only have one day, I'd go DE for striper and blue; for two or three days, I prefer to go OBX or further south. 

Cape Lookout National Sea Shore is a place I really want to go. Since I just start to explore the OBX, I am thinking maybe it is easy for me to start from Oregon Inlet because I have more resource. To camp in Cape Lookout, at least I need to know how to secure my tent in the sand. Maybe I can start from just a day trip in Cape Lookout to get a general idea. 

I will try to take couple days off at 11/8 weekend. And if I don't go FL, most likely, I will go OBX again, either Oregon Inlet or Cape Lookout. 

Thanks!

Yang

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[John Mathews]

Yang,

That tent thing in a OBX environment can be troublesome especially when the winds really begin to howl.  You can make this anchor system out of plywoob and it is the best system for anchoring your tent.  Just bury the plywood pieces in the sand. http://www.amazon.com/Sand-Anchoring-System-Beach-Tents/dp/B00D60ENK4    

When I lived in the Morehead City area of the lower OBX, and even though I could see the CALO lighthouse on a good day, it was a journey to get out to the cape.  So, I used to go to the west end of Shackelford Island which is the west tip of CALO Nat Park.  You can catch a ferry from Beaufort.  It's a ten minute ride.  The ferry runs every hour till sundown.  You can camp and the fishing there can be quite good.  If you don't want to camp, you can sleep in a real bed somewhere in the area.   If you want to go to the cape, stay in Harkers Island and use the ferry service that runs out of there.  http://www.nps.gov/calo/naturescience/horses.htm

If you need any other info on that area, just drop me a line.

John 

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