C&O Canal: There's fish but no water
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kylef...@gmail.com
Mar 31, 2016, 8:28:43 AM3/31/16
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It appears the bluegills and largemouth bass didn't get the memo from NPS that the canal isn't open for the season yet.
Between Key Bridge and the Whitehurst Freeway overpass I counted a dozen LMB ranging 6-12 inches in size and 500+ bluegills yesterday mostly in the 2-4 inch range but with a few 6-7 inch fish. Water depths looked to be 6-24 inches. There is little to no cover or apparent food. I'm guessing they like the warmth of shallow water and lack of current, possibly pre-spawn for the bluegills. The 10-12 inch LMBs are probably following their food. (See blurry bass pic)
Right now it seems a little unsporting to toss buggy dries at bluegills or strip streamers for bass in a glorified puddle.
Does anyone know when NPS will flood the canal?
Jeffrey Silvan
Mar 31, 2016, 9:08:03 AM3/31/16
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I've been wondering the same. It is watered in between locks 6 and 7.
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kylef...@gmail.com
Mar 31, 2016, 9:21:00 AM3/31/16
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The continual water doesn't go east of the pedestrian overpass at Francis Scott Key park. I haven't walked upstream from Georgetown yet.
On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 9:08:03 AM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:
I've been wondering the same. It is watered in between locks 6 and 7.
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 7:59 AM, <kylef...@gmail.com> wrote:
It appears the bluegills and largemouth bass didn't get the memo from NPS that the canal isn't open for the season yet.Between Key Bridge and the Whitehurst Freeway overpass I counted a dozen LMB ranging 6-12 inches in size and 500+ bluegills yesterday mostly in the 2-4 inch range but with a few 6-7 inch fish. Water depths looked to be 6-24 inches. There is little to no cover or apparent food. I'm guessing they like the warmth of shallow water and lack of current, possibly pre-spawn for the bluegills. The 10-12 inch LMBs are probably following their food. (See blurry bass pic)Right now it seems a little unsporting to toss buggy dries at bluegills or strip streamers for bass in a glorified puddle.Does anyone know when NPS will flood the canal?
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namfos
Mar 31, 2016, 11:05:16 AM3/31/16
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A PM inquiry via the Canal's FB page received just now:
"For now, water will enter the canal above Great Falls as normal at Violletts lock, and continue down to just above the "Log Wall" at Mile 11.2. Water will not be in the canal below the Log Wall and Lock 5 / Inlet Lock 1 for two reasons: repairs are required at the Log Wall and a culvert is being repaired this summer near Carderock.
On a related note, maintenance Division is currently clearing debris from inlet Lock 1 to begin the process of re-watering from Lock 5 to Georgetown."
Might want to check with whomever is doing the clearing at Lock 1 for progress reports. There's a guide to mile markers here: http://www.candocanal.org/access.html
Mark
Jeffrey Silvan
Mar 31, 2016, 11:21:06 AM3/31/16
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Wow, so is that saying no water at all this entire season from Georgetown to outside the Beltway? It sounds like I'll have to find a new place for the mulberry hatch then this season... I guess the water that was in between 6 and 7 is an anomaly?
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tperkins
Mar 31, 2016, 11:42:09 AM3/31/16
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Mark, thanks for making the inquiry! Hopefully they will get lock 1 fixed soon.
On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:21:06 AM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:
Wow, so is that saying no water at all this entire season from Georgetown to outside the Beltway? It sounds like I'll have to find a new place for the mulberry hatch then this season... I guess the water that was in between 6 and 7 is an anomaly?
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:05 AM, namfos <mark....@gmail.com> wrote:
A PM inquiry via the Canal's FB page received just now:"For now, water will enter the canal above Great Falls as normal at Violletts lock, and continue down to just above the "Log Wall" at Mile 11.2. Water will not be in the canal below the Log Wall and Lock 5 / Inlet Lock 1 for two reasons: repairs are required at the Log Wall and a culvert is being repaired this summer near Carderock. On a related note, maintenance Division is currently clearing debris from inlet Lock 1 to begin the process of re-watering from Lock 5 to Georgetown."Might want to check with whomever is doing the clearing at Lock 1 for progress reports. There's a guide to mile markers here: http://www.candocanal.org/access.htmlMark
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Ashley Frohwein
Mar 31, 2016, 1:27:20 PM3/31/16
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Boo. So the culvert will be repaired this summer, but I wonder when they'll repair the log wall. I've never fished above lock 8 (by which I mean toward the beltway/away from Georgetown). Is there any good carp sight fishing up that way?
Andrew LaVigne
Mar 31, 2016, 1:36:05 PM3/31/16
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It looked like water was coming in by Fletcher's this morning. Not sure where that is in terms of locks, I guess it's above Lock 5.
On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:21:06 AM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:
Wow, so is that saying no water at all this entire season from Georgetown to outside the Beltway? It sounds like I'll have to find a new place for the mulberry hatch then this season... I guess the water that was in between 6 and 7 is an anomaly?
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:05 AM, namfos <mark....@gmail.com> wrote:
A PM inquiry via the Canal's FB page received just now:"For now, water will enter the canal above Great Falls as normal at Violletts lock, and continue down to just above the "Log Wall" at Mile 11.2. Water will not be in the canal below the Log Wall and Lock 5 / Inlet Lock 1 for two reasons: repairs are required at the Log Wall and a culvert is being repaired this summer near Carderock. On a related note, maintenance Division is currently clearing debris from inlet Lock 1 to begin the process of re-watering from Lock 5 to Georgetown."Might want to check with whomever is doing the clearing at Lock 1 for progress reports. There's a guide to mile markers here: http://www.candocanal.org/access.htmlMark
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Jeffrey Silvan
Mar 31, 2016, 1:36:34 PM3/31/16
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There usually isn't water above lock 8 and the few times there has been, I haven't bothered checking it out. It's always dry in the portion under 495. Further up, there's water again and I know people do target carp, but I have only tried once.
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Ashley Frohwein <ashleyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
Boo. So the culvert will be repaired this summer, but I wonder when they'll repair the log wall. I've never fished above lock 8 (by which I mean toward the beltway/away from Georgetown). Is there any good carp sight fishing up that way?
On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:42:09 AM UTC-4, tperkins wrote:
Mark, thanks for making the inquiry! Hopefully they will get lock 1 fixed soon.
On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:21:06 AM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:
Wow, so is that saying no water at all this entire season from Georgetown to outside the Beltway? It sounds like I'll have to find a new place for the mulberry hatch then this season... I guess the water that was in between 6 and 7 is an anomaly?
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:05 AM, namfos <mark....@gmail.com> wrote:
A PM inquiry via the Canal's FB page received just now:"For now, water will enter the canal above Great Falls as normal at Violletts lock, and continue down to just above the "Log Wall" at Mile 11.2. Water will not be in the canal below the Log Wall and Lock 5 / Inlet Lock 1 for two reasons: repairs are required at the Log Wall and a culvert is being repaired this summer near Carderock. On a related note, maintenance Division is currently clearing debris from inlet Lock 1 to begin the process of re-watering from Lock 5 to Georgetown."Might want to check with whomever is doing the clearing at Lock 1 for progress reports. There's a guide to mile markers here: http://www.candocanal.org/access.htmlMark
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Hugh Fike
Mar 31, 2016, 2:46:33 PM3/31/16
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Water is very low below chain bridge and above Arizona road.
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kylef...@gmail.com
Apr 1, 2016, 7:50:46 AM4/1/16
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I crossed over on the Key Bridge this morning. It looks like they are filling the canal in Georgetown to Lock 4. When I walk back in the afternoon I should be able to confirm. That should make some carpers happy!
On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 1:36:34 PM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:
There usually isn't water above lock 8 and the few times there has been, I haven't bothered checking it out. It's always dry in the portion under 495. Further up, there's water again and I know people do target carp, but I have only tried once.
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Ashley Frohwein <ashleyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
Boo. So the culvert will be repaired this summer, but I wonder when they'll repair the log wall. I've never fished above lock 8 (by which I mean toward the beltway/away from Georgetown). Is there any good carp sight fishing up that way?
On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:42:09 AM UTC-4, tperkins wrote:
Mark, thanks for making the inquiry! Hopefully they will get lock 1 fixed soon.
On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:21:06 AM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:
Wow, so is that saying no water at all this entire season from Georgetown to outside the Beltway? It sounds like I'll have to find a new place for the mulberry hatch then this season... I guess the water that was in between 6 and 7 is an anomaly?
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:05 AM, namfos <mark....@gmail.com> wrote:
A PM inquiry via the Canal's FB page received just now:"For now, water will enter the canal above Great Falls as normal at Violletts lock, and continue down to just above the "Log Wall" at Mile 11.2. Water will not be in the canal below the Log Wall and Lock 5 / Inlet Lock 1 for two reasons: repairs are required at the Log Wall and a culvert is being repaired this summer near Carderock. On a related note, maintenance Division is currently clearing debris from inlet Lock 1 to begin the process of re-watering from Lock 5 to Georgetown."Might want to check with whomever is doing the clearing at Lock 1 for progress reports. There's a guide to mile markers here: http://www.candocanal.org/access.htmlMark
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Jamie Carracher
Apr 1, 2016, 7:57:28 AM4/1/16
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Good deal!
namfos
Apr 1, 2016, 8:38:50 AM4/1/16
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Jeff, clarity via Twitter?
Looks like you won't be doin' your carpin' above Lock 5 this summer for sure. Whether or not you will below Lock 5, depends on how quickly they clear the debris. Zero info was offered on when work would be completed. Several years ago when canal washed out near Anglers, it was at least 3 years before they "re-watered" after major repairs.
"@namfos water from lock 22 to Log Wall at Mile 11.2 No Water below to Lock 5 b/c Log Wall needs repairs, culvert being repaired @ Carderock"
"...also We are currently clearing debris from inlet Lock/lock 5 to re-water from Lock 5 to GT
Looks like you won't be doin' your carpin' above Lock 5 this summer for sure. Whether or not you will below Lock 5, depends on how quickly they clear the debris. Zero info was offered on when work would be completed. Several years ago when canal washed out near Anglers, it was at least 3 years before they "re-watered" after major repairs.
FWIW, there are some big honkin' carp in the Canal just upstream of Widewater and below Great Falls Tavern.
Here's an even better map to the canal with mile markers: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zTcSoBEu8XVU.kTc_-ypqVr7k&hl=en&usp=sharing
Mark
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Apr 1, 2016, 9:43:17 AM4/1/16
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Yikes, that's a bummer! Thanks for the efforts to find this info. I guess I'll have to venture further up the canal this year. Thanks for the intel on the other places to hit.
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Ashley Frohwein
Apr 1, 2016, 11:34:00 AM4/1/16
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This is crushing. So much for being able to chase carp a few days a week after work.
On Friday, April 1, 2016 at 9:43:17 AM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:
Yikes, that's a bummer! Thanks for the efforts to find this info. I guess I'll have to venture further up the canal this year. Thanks for the intel on the other places to hit.
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:38 AM, namfos <mark....@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeff, clarity via Twitter?"@namfos water from lock 22 to Log Wall at Mile 11.2 No Water below to Lock 5 b/c Log Wall needs repairs, culvert being repaired @ Carderock""...also We are currently clearing debris from inlet Lock/lock 5 to re-water from Lock 5 to GT
Looks like you won't be doin' your carpin' above Lock 5 this summer for sure. Whether or not you will below Lock 5, depends on how quickly they clear the debris. Zero info was offered on when work would be completed. Several years ago when canal washed out near Anglers, it was at least 3 years before they "re-watered" after major repairs.FWIW, there are some big honkin' carp in the Canal just upstream of Widewater and below Great Falls Tavern.Here's an even better map to the canal with mile markers: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zTcSoBEu8XVU.kTc_-ypqVr7k&hl=en&usp=sharingMark
On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:21:06 AM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:Wow, so is that saying no water at all this entire season from Georgetown to outside the Beltway? It sounds like I'll have to find a new place for the mulberry hatch then this season... I guess the water that was in between 6 and 7 is an anomaly?
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namfos
Apr 2, 2016, 10:48:21 AM4/2/16
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Well, what might you expect from 160+ year old transpotation infrastructure that hasn't been used for it's intended purpose in nearly a century? And is presently operated by a Federal agency that has a backlog of maintenance and repair work larger than than Metro?
Just have to head out farther afield, I suppose.
Mark
kylef...@gmail.com
Apr 2, 2016, 3:23:55 PM4/2/16
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Lock 5 to Georgetown has water now.
Brian Cohen
Apr 6, 2016, 9:30:50 PM4/6/16
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The Georgetown Current community newspaper is reporting this week that, "An 18-month rehabilitation of the C&O Canal’s Lock 3 will begin this fall, requiring the D.C. stretch of canal to be drained for the duration of the work."
According to the story, the work will begin in October 2016 and finish by April 2018, and "the agency will need to drain the canal east of Lock 5, located just over the Maryland line, to safely carry out the work."
The Current publishes their material online a week or so after the print edition is published and delivered. By this time next week, you should be able to read the full story here: http://www.currentnewspapers.com/archiveweek.php?n=2&year=2016
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Lock 5 to Georgetown has water now.
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Ashley Frohwein
Apr 7, 2016, 9:22:56 AM4/7/16
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So does this potentially mean that there will be water west of lock 5? Please someone just tell me the area around lock 8 will be fishable in a month.
On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 9:30:50 PM UTC-4, Brian Cohen wrote:
The Georgetown Current community newspaper is reporting this week that, "An 18-month rehabilitation of the C&O Canal’s Lock 3 will begin this fall, requiring the D.C. stretch of canal to be drained for the duration of the work."According to the story, the work will begin in October 2016 and finish by April 2018, and "the agency will need to drain the canal east of Lock 5, located just over the Maryland line, to safely carry out the work."The Current publishes their material online a week or so after the print edition is published and delivered. By this time next week, you should be able to read the full story here: http://www.currentnewspapers.com/archiveweek.php?n=2&year=2016
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Lock 5 to Georgetown has water now.
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HermanyorFlorida
Apr 7, 2016, 11:42:01 AM4/7/16
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So there's still water at Widewater then. Seemed to be fewer carp in there last year. If you're feeling super adventurous, go out to Big or Little Pool way way out on the canal.
Brian Cohen
Apr 9, 2016, 8:22:44 AM4/9/16
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Here is a link to a pdf of the full article
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Ashley Frohwein <ashleyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
So does this potentially mean that there will be water west of lock 5? Please someone just tell me the area around lock 8 will be fishable in a month.
On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 9:30:50 PM UTC-4, Brian Cohen wrote:
The Georgetown Current community newspaper is reporting this week that, "An 18-month rehabilitation of the C&O Canal’s Lock 3 will begin this fall, requiring the D.C. stretch of canal to be drained for the duration of the work."According to the story, the work will begin in October 2016 and finish by April 2018, and "the agency will need to drain the canal east of Lock 5, located just over the Maryland line, to safely carry out the work."The Current publishes their material online a week or so after the print edition is published and delivered. By this time next week, you should be able to read the full story here: http://www.currentnewspapers.com/archiveweek.php?n=2&year=2016
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Lock 5 to Georgetown has water now.
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