Spey casting from a dock/shore

[Matthew Longley]

I caved and bought a 13ft 7wt for myself for Christmas (thanks Dalton, Dan and Art for the advice!). Of course the only place I've been able to find to cast it that isn't frozen up this week is off a dock on the Charles River (I live in Boston now). I (kinda) know how to Snap T and Double Spey cast, but I found that it couldn't really cast without the line or fly hitting the dock that I was standing on. Is this a limitation of those casts, or am I just bad at it? Any casts I can try that are better for when you don't have any water next to you or behind you at all?

[arthur...@gmail.com]

Matt

Check out a Perry poke!

Art

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On Jan 3, 2017, at 8:11 PM, Matthew Longley <matthew...@gmail.com> wrote:

I caved and bought a 13ft 7wt for myself for Christmas (thanks Dalton, Dan and Art for the advice!). Of course the only place I've been able to find to cast it that isn't frozen up this week is off a dock on the Charles River (I live in Boston now). I (kinda) know how to Snap T and Double Spey cast, but I found that it couldn't really cast without the line or fly hitting the dock that I was standing on. Is this a limitation of those casts, or am I just bad at it? Any casts I can try that are better for when you don't have any water next to you or behind you at all?

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[TurbineBlade]

Ah, the Perry Poke!  Story has it that S. Gawesworth came up with it while performing a Single Spey and then spotting a naked streamer named "Perry" on the opposite bank mid-cast.  Voila!  

Spey casting seems to be roughly 90% assigning goofy names to things learned completely intuitively as a result of simply trying to cast.  When I button my pants in the morning, I thread the button on one side through the slit on the other side.  I call it a trans-snap button buckle in my book about buttoning pants, available on Amazon.  

Gene

On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 9:42:59 PM UTC-5, arthur noglak wrote:

Matt

Check out a Perry poke!

Art

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On Jan 3, 2017, at 8:11 PM, Matthew Longley <matthew...@gmail.com> wrote:

I caved and bought a 13ft 7wt for myself for Christmas (thanks Dalton, Dan and Art for the advice!). Of course the only place I've been able to find to cast it that isn't frozen up this week is off a dock on the Charles River (I live in Boston now). I (kinda) know how to Snap T and Double Spey cast, but I found that it couldn't really cast without the line or fly hitting the dock that I was standing on. Is this a limitation of those casts, or am I just bad at it? Any casts I can try that are better for when you don't have any water next to you or behind you at all?

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[TurbineBlade]

That's "streaker".  Naked streamers are another story, for a different message board!

Gene

[Adam Soller]

I haven't been to Fletcher's in a while so you may know better than I if it's iced over.

A year or so before Bilotta packed to head to CT, I did some casting on the ice down there. If it's low tide you can make it out to the rocks that are a few feet out from shore as they should be nearly submerged. The positive was that your sink tips never got stuck on the bottom. The negative was the lack of a sustained anchor. Decent for touch and go casting.

[GSFeder]

Gene --

Is your book available in ebook format?  I use my phone as a camera, and it would be handy to have when I'm done.

-- A. Weiner, NY, NY. 

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[namfos]

ha ha ha

On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 10:59:02 PM UTC-5, TurbineBlade wrote:

[Dalton Terrell]

I'd recommend slowing everything down a bit, you're probably "blowing your anchor" if the fly is going behind where you're standing. Inevitably, we all try to cast a 13 ft rod like it like it's a 9 ft rod when we first pick it up, while the longer lever requires much less effort or speed.

Another thought is trying to cast parallel to the dock.

Hope this helps, and enjoy the rod.

Dalton

[Terry C]

Parallel to the dock was my answer as well.  Also try and place your anchor slightly forward to your position. This will give you a smaller D loop.  

[Matthew Longley]

Excellent, thanks guys! I'm likely horsing it a bit, will try to slow everything down. As soon as it stops snowing...