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Aaron Meurer

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Feb 8, 2016, 3:59:41 PM2/8/16
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GSoC organization applications are now open. We can apply as an org, but before we do, I want to know how many people we have who can mentor. If you are able to mentor (even if just for certain specific projects), please add your name at https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-2016-Ideas#potential-mentors.  

Ondrej, what do you plan with GSoC for SymEngine? 

Students, if you are interested in doing GSoC with SymPy, please read https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-2016-Ideas and introduce yourself in another thread on this list. 

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Tim Lahey

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Feb 8, 2016, 4:06:07 PM2/8/16
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Unfortunately, I won’t be able to mentor this year. If something changes, I’ll let you know.

Sorry,

Tim.
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Aaron Meurer

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Thank you for letting me know. I forgot to mention that it's also helpful if you mentored in the past and can't mentor to let me know as well. 

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Ondřej Čertík

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On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Aaron Meurer <asme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> GSoC organization applications are now open. We can apply as an org, but
> before we do, I want to know how many people we have who can mentor. If you
> are able to mentor (even if just for certain specific projects), please add
> your name at
> https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-2016-Ideas#potential-mentors.
>
> Ondrej, what do you plan with GSoC for SymEngine?

We'll have it as part of SymPy. E.g. last year Shivam was implementing
faster series expansion, intended for SymEngine, but we first
implemented it in SymPy. In fact, that's what we always do with new
features if SymPy doesn't have them yet, we do it in SymPy first. The
SciRuby organization also expressed interest in hosting the Ruby
bindings to SymEngine again this year, so we'll do that as well. I am
going to propose improving the Sage and Julia bindings as well, but
those are best handled by their respective organizations.

Ondrej

Thilina Rathnayake

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Feb 8, 2016, 5:41:30 PM2/8/16
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I am willing to participate as a mentor for SymEngine and any project regarding
the Diophantine equation module in SymPy.

Regards,
Thilina

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Jason Moore

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Feb 8, 2016, 7:37:12 PM2/8/16
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FYI, we'll be submitting a PyDy org application (or maybe a UC Davis one) and also will submit with PSF. I'm willing to mentor sympy.physics.vector/mechanics and PyDy related projects.

I'm teaching PyDy in our graduate course this quarter and will be encouraging students to apply.

Jason

Ondřej Čertík

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Feb 8, 2016, 7:57:20 PM2/8/16
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On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Jason Moore <moore...@gmail.com> wrote:
> FYI, we'll be submitting a PyDy org application (or maybe a UC Davis one)
> and also will submit with PSF. I'm willing to mentor
> sympy.physics.vector/mechanics and PyDy related projects.
>
> I'm teaching PyDy in our graduate course this quarter and will be
> encouraging students to apply.

Excellent, thanks Jason!

Ondrej

Ralf Stephan

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Feb 9, 2016, 1:15:44 AM2/9/16
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I'm interested in reviewing the proposals for a possible mentoring commitment.

Regards,

AMiT Kumar

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Feb 9, 2016, 6:58:43 AM2/9/16
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Hi!
I am willing to participate as a mentor.


Regards,
AMiT Kumar

Isuru Fernando

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Feb 9, 2016, 7:29:38 AM2/9/16
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Hi,

I'm willing to mentor a SymEngine project.

Isuru Fernando

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Sudhanshu Mishra

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Feb 9, 2016, 8:03:32 AM2/9/16
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Hi,

I am willing to participate as a supporting mentor.

Modules - Assumption, logic

Sudhanshu Mishra

Abinash Meher

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Hi,

I am willing to mentor any applications for SymEngine Ruby bindings. I can help with reviewing the applications for SymEngine too.

Regards,
Abinash Meher

Ondřej Čertík

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Feb 9, 2016, 10:27:32 AM2/9/16
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Thanks everybody who replied so far! Sudhansu and Abinash, can you add
your name to the wiki please?

https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-2016-Ideas#potential-mentors

Thanks,
Ondrej
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Shivam Vats

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Feb 9, 2016, 8:46:34 PM2/9/16
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I would like to mentor for SymEngine and SymPy too, preferably with another mentor.
Module - Series Expansions.

Sumith 1896

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Feb 13, 2016, 5:58:36 AM2/13/16
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Hi all,

The projects list for SymEngine(https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-2016-Ideas#detailed-subprojects-in-symengine) has updated with a few more projects. I request all to have a look.

A lot of can be done on presenting more details to the ideas present in this section. I request the mentors to do the same.

Thank you
Sumith
https://www.cse.iitb.ac.in/~sumith/

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Sean Vig

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Feb 16, 2016, 12:31:31 PM2/16/16
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I can potentially mentor this year if there are any suitable projects for me. At the very least I can review proposals. I'll add my name to the wiki.

Sean

Aaron Meurer

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Feb 17, 2016, 6:45:08 PM2/17/16
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Ondrej and I have filled out the org application. The responses are here https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-2016-Organization-Application. If you want to edit it, the deadline is Friday, so we can still change it, but let me know if you do, so I can edit the form on Google's site. 

We will find out if we are accepted on February 29 (leap day).

Aaron Meurer

Jason Moore

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I plan to work on the PyDy and SymPy stuff tomorrow and Friday. I think we really need to give our applications a makeover if we want to get selected (as mentioned about the ideas page). Does anyone agree with that? I have worries that we won't be selected again.

Aaron Meurer

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Ondrej and I rewrote the SymPy application from scratch. We had to do this anyway, because the questions are different, and have pretty low character limits this year.

Aaron Meurer

Jason Moore

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Feb 17, 2016, 10:27:30 PM2/17/16
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Ok great! Thanks for the work on that.

Harsh Gupta

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Feb 18, 2016, 12:19:04 AM2/18/16
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I can also act as a backup mentor and help review applications.


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Ondřej Čertík

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Feb 18, 2016, 11:20:02 AM2/18/16
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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Jason Moore <moore...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I plan to work on the PyDy and SymPy stuff tomorrow and Friday. I think we
> really need to give our applications a makeover if we want to get selected
> (as mentioned about the ideas page). Does anyone agree with that? I have
> worries that we won't be selected again.

We definitely need to rework our ideas page. Just make sure the link
https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/gsoc-2016-ideas#potential-mentors
always work, since we reference it from the application.

I started by removing the "potential mentors" from each idea (only
kept the overall list at the top), since most of them were empty, and
the point is that if the idea (which must be better developed by the
student anyway) is good, then we will find a mentor for the student.

Ondrej

P.S. Jason, if you meant that you would start working on the
application on Friday, then I think that's not a good plan, given that
Friday is the deadline. ;)

Aaron Meurer

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On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Ondřej Čertík <ondrej...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Jason Moore <moore...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I plan to work on the PyDy and SymPy stuff tomorrow and Friday. I think we
>> really need to give our applications a makeover if we want to get selected
>> (as mentioned about the ideas page). Does anyone agree with that? I have
>> worries that we won't be selected again.
>
> We definitely need to rework our ideas page. Just make sure the link
> https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/gsoc-2016-ideas#potential-mentors
> always work, since we reference it from the application.
>
> I started by removing the "potential mentors" from each idea (only
> kept the overall list at the top), since most of them were empty, and
> the point is that if the idea (which must be better developed by the
> student anyway) is good, then we will find a mentor for the student.

Let's also fill in the other fields for each idea (involved software,
difficulty, prerequisite knowledge), or delete them. I actually don't
get the point of "involved software". None of the ideas have that
filled in. I think the involved software for all the ideas is the
same.

Aaron Meurer

>
> Ondrej
>
> P.S. Jason, if you meant that you would start working on the
> application on Friday, then I think that's not a good plan, given that
> Friday is the deadline. ;)
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Gaurav Dhingra

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On 18/02/16 22:12, Aaron Meurer wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Ondřej Čertík <ondrej...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Jason Moore <moore...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I plan to work on the PyDy and SymPy stuff tomorrow and Friday. I think we
>>> really need to give our applications a makeover if we want to get selected
>>> (as mentioned about the ideas page). Does anyone agree with that? I have
>>> worries that we won't be selected again.
>> We definitely need to rework our ideas page. Just make sure the link
>> https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/gsoc-2016-ideas#potential-mentors
>> always work, since we reference it from the application.
>>
>> I started by removing the "potential mentors" from each idea (only
>> kept the overall list at the top), since most of them were empty, and
>> the point is that if the idea (which must be better developed by the
>> student anyway) is good, then we will find a mentor for the student.
> Let's also fill in the other fields for each idea (involved software,
> difficulty, prerequisite knowledge), or delete them. I actually don't
> get the point of "involved software". None of the ideas have that
> filled in. I think the involved software for all the ideas is the
> same.

Involved software for example for making Group Theory better could
involve using "GAP" (since it is canonical right now) software. Should i
add it there?

Gaurav Dhingra

Aaron Meurer

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Feb 18, 2016, 11:48:51 AM2/18/16
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I would just add it to the idea text itself. Most ideas don't require
any software beyond the standard stuff (Python, git, etc.).

Aaron Meurer

>
> Gaurav Dhingra
>
>>
>> Aaron Meurer
>>
>>> Ondrej
>>>
>>> P.S. Jason, if you meant that you would start working on the
>>> application on Friday, then I think that's not a good plan, given that
>>> Friday is the deadline. ;)
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Jason Moore

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Ondrej,

Ok, I'll work on the ideas page some today and tomorrow. I'll also review your application.

And yes, I am planning on doing this just before the deadline. Extra time these days is a rarity, so I get things done when I can and today and tomorrow is when I can. If you are turning things in before then, let me know and I will not review.

Jason
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Aaron Meurer

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On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Jason Moore <moore...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ondrej,
>
> Ok, I'll work on the ideas page some today and tomorrow. I'll also review
> your application.
>
> And yes, I am planning on doing this just before the deadline. Extra time
> these days is a rarity, so I get things done when I can and today and
> tomorrow is when I can. If you are turning things in before then, let me
> know and I will not review.

I've submitted the application but we can edit it up to the deadline.

Aaron Meurer
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salil vishnu Kapur

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Hello community,

I would like to participate as a mentor.

Regards
Salil Vishnu Kapur



On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 2:29:41 AM UTC+5:30, Aaron Meurer wrote:
GSoC organization applications are now open. We can apply as an org, but before we do, I want to know how many people we have who can mentor. If you are able to mentor (even if just for certain specific projects), please add your name at https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-2016-Ideas#potential-mentors.  

Ondrej, what do you plan with GSoC for SymEngine? 

Aaron Meurer

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Mentors need to be established members of the community. If you are
interested in participating as a student, please start here
https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-2016-Student-Instructions.

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Jason Moore

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Ondrej,

You say:

"since most of them were empty, and
the point is that if the idea (which must be better developed by the
student anyway) is good, then we will find a mentor for the student."

I don't see how that works. I think we need to have potential mentors listed for each idea so that students know the reality. I personally don't plan on mentoring any projects I don't understand. I don't think it is realistic that we can find mentors for any project that students prefer. We've already seen in the past that mentors are not willing to mentor just anything.

I think if projects don't have a potential mentor listed we should remove it from the ideas page for this year.

I'd like to do this if there is no objection.

Jason
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Jason Moore

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I'm working on it now. Personally I'd remove any idea that doesn't have a champion mentor. But Ondrej didn't like that criteria (personal chat).

I just think the ideas page is too giant and messy. I think fewer targeted ideas that are carefully selected by us for importance and based on if we have a champion mentor would make things simpler for the students and result in better quality projects that will help move the project forward. Instead of an ideas page that has everything that anyone has ever thought of, we should structure it as "important projects". If we have very enterprising students, we could let them submit a proposal and see if we have an interested mentor that will "sponsor" it.

Many other projects have very nice concise and orderly ideas pages that aren't just a huge massive brain dump. This looks way more professional in my opinion, not to mention easier to for the students to understand.

I'm pushing some basic changes now to clean things up. I'll recommend some removals before removing anything.

Jason

Ondřej Čertík

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On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Jason Moore <moore...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm working on it now. Personally I'd remove any idea that doesn't have a
> champion mentor. But Ondrej didn't like that criteria (personal chat).
>
> I just think the ideas page is too giant and messy. I think fewer targeted
> ideas that are carefully selected by us for importance and based on if we
> have a champion mentor would make things simpler for the students and result
> in better quality projects that will help move the project forward. Instead
> of an ideas page that has everything that anyone has ever thought of, we
> should structure it as "important projects". If we have very enterprising
> students, we could let them submit a proposal and see if we have an
> interested mentor that will "sponsor" it.
>
> Many other projects have very nice concise and orderly ideas pages that
> aren't just a huge massive brain dump. This looks way more professional in
> my opinion, not to mention easier to for the students to understand.
>
> I'm pushing some basic changes now to clean things up. I'll recommend some
> removals before removing anything.

We should have "important projects" that have a mentor and are well
thought out etc. Assumptions would be an example. We should have more
of those. There is a wiki history, we can put the authors back. The
first section should be very polished projects. The second section
should be less polished projects, probably without mentors. Then we
should have another section that is more of a dump of ideas. But we
should still remove bad ideas, just keep things that make sense if a
student is interested in developing the idea further. I think that's
still very valuable.

Ondrej

salil vishnu Kapur

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Hie ,

But if I could be assigned as an assistant mentor then also I could help. I have been been working on Sympy as part of my internship in IIT Bombay for quite a long time now. Atleast I can try maybe there might arise some position which I could be allocated .

Regards
Salil Vishnu Kapur
Software Engineer
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Jason Moore

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Salil, what is your github username? Have you submitted patches to SymPy before?

Sumith 1896

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Hi,

Sorry for the late response.
I'm willing to mentor for a SymEngine project.

Thank you
Sumith
https://www.cse.iitb.ac.in/~sumith/

salil vishnu Kapur

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Jason my username is Salil Vishnu Kapur. Though I haven't made any patches to sympy but as my part of internship at IIT bombay I am working on sympy only . Moreover If given a chance I would be doing bug fixes in a week's time.  Here is the link to my linkedin profile https://www.linkedin.com/in/salil-vishnu-kapur-24a23289 .

Regards
Salil Vishnu Kapur
Software Engineer
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Jason Moore

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Salil,

Thanks for the info but you'll need to spend more time with the community before we let you be a GSoC mentor. We don't really know anything about you yet. Please start submitting and reviewing patches and hanging around the mailing list and gitter. Once you build up some time with the community we'll gladly let you mentor.

Jason

salil vishnu Kapur

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Jason,

I am going to do the same from today on. Hope this will embark my journey in sympy.

Regards
Salil Vishnu Kapur

Ondřej Čertík

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Hi Salil,

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 8:00 PM, salil vishnu Kapur
<salilvis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jason,
>
> I am going to do the same from today on. Hope this will embark my journey in
> sympy.

Perfect. Looking forward for your contributions. If you never
contributed to SymPy, you can start by sending us some pull requests.
Since you are interested in mentoring later on, reviewing pull
requests is always highly appreciated and very valuable. Let us know
if you need any help, or have questions.

Ondrej
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Aaron Meurer

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Salil, if you are a student (you didn't make it clear if you are), I
would recommend applying to GSoC as a student.

Even if you aren't, as Ondrej said, we always welcome contributions.

Aaron Meurer

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salil vishnu Kapur

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Feb 22, 2016, 10:09:20 PM2/22/16
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Hello ondrej, aaron

Thanks for the support . Yes I am looking for some issues in Sympy now. Will make contribution soon . And Aaron I am a working professional, software engineer at capgemini. I finished my bachelor's previous year may . 

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Salil 
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