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Steffi L

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Mar 14, 2014, 3:57:08 PM3/14/14
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Hi,

I am using the module nsolve of the SymPy package and want to refer to it in a scientific article. Is there any convention how to cite it?

Thanks,
Stef

Jason Moore

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Mar 14, 2014, 4:05:29 PM3/14/14
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If you'd like to cite SymPy then use: https://github.com/sympy/sympy#citation, but if you want to cite an article that explains the algorithm in nsolve, you'll need to dig deeper.

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Joachim Durchholz

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Matthew Rocklin

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Jason's answer is probably the one to go with practically speaking. 

Philosophically speaking though, module specific citations might be interesting.  Presumably these could be auto-generated.  Maybe we could hack up a little 'cite' function that returns bibtex for any module by inspecting the git logs and returning all authors with a non-trivial quantity of commits.


Jason Moore

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Mar 14, 2014, 4:26:52 PM3/14/14
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Very cool idea. Having a tool that could build citations based on what functionality you used in your paper would be interesting. The only issues is where to draw the line on significant contributions and how far back in the tree you go. Linus and Dennis Ritchie may have get the most citations if we're not careful.

Joachim Durchholz

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Mar 14, 2014, 5:39:48 PM3/14/14
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Am 14.03.2014 21:26, schrieb Jason Moore:
> The only issues
> is where to draw the line on significant contributions and how far back in
> the tree you go. Linus and Dennis Ritchie may have get the most citations
> if we're not careful.

Don't forget to cite Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī.

(I think actually you don't name indirect citations though, so none of
Linus, Dennis and al-Khwārizmī qualify.)

Matthew Rocklin

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Mar 14, 2014, 5:51:03 PM3/14/14
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Ha, maybe instead of scraping out contributors to all technology related to a paper we could limit ourselves to scraping out the contributors to a module of a library.  This seems more tractable :)

Heck though, if we wanted to give credit back to Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī we could start citing papers within SymPy's codebase.  We do this already sometimes and I always find it helpful.  Maybe the academic citation world will cite software more seriously if software cites the academic world more seriously.


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Aaron Meurer

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Mar 14, 2014, 7:31:19 PM3/14/14
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The copyright of SymPy is "SymPy Development Team", so that's who you
should cite. The full team is listed in AUTHORS.

Aaron Meurer

On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Matthew Rocklin <mroc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ha, maybe instead of scraping out contributors to all technology related to
> a paper we could limit ourselves to scraping out the contributors to a
> module of a library. This seems more tractable :)
>
> Heck though, if we wanted to give credit back to Muḥammad ibn Mūsā
> al-Khwārizmī we could start citing papers within SymPy's codebase. We do
> this already sometimes and I always find it helpful. Maybe the academic
> citation world will cite software more seriously if software cites the
> academic world more seriously.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Joachim Durchholz <j...@durchholz.org> wrote:
>>
>> Am 14.03.2014 21:26, schrieb Jason Moore:
>>
>>> The only issues
>>> is where to draw the line on significant contributions and how far back
>>> in
>>> the tree you go. Linus and Dennis Ritchie may have get the most citations
>>> if we're not careful.
>>
>>
>> Don't forget to cite Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī.
>>
>> (I think actually you don't name indirect citations though, so none of
>> Linus, Dennis and al-Khwārizmī qualify.)
>>
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