Fwd: Job no. :1007 : Civil Repairing and Painting works of Sugam Sabuj started today

[Shirsendu Sengupta]

An FYI

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From: GOUTAM GHOSH <goutam...@eil.co.in>
Date: Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 4:33 PM
Subject: Job no. :1007 : Civil Repairing and Painting works of Sugam Sabuj started today
To: sugamsabujparibar <sugamsab...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: shirsendu <shir...@gmail.com>

Dear Resident /Owners,

It is pleased to inform you that Civil Repairing work of Block-A and Block - B ultimately started today based on priority recommended by Technical Committee of Sugam Sabuj Association Apartment Association (SSAOA) considering criticality of the building condition. Hopefully it should be completed by January 2022. 

Schedule of Repairing for other blocks shall be informed you soon after recommendation received from Technical committee of SSAOA.

You might  be aware that our Civil repairing of all blocks shall be completed by March 2022 as per Tender requirement as intimated through special GB meeting recently. 

Contractor's Skilled/un-skilled labour/supervisor will be working at site during this construction period. Construction material will also to be dumped inside of our complex. Dust pollution and sound pollution to some extend may be disturbed your daily comfort life and is unavoidable too. Hence, request your cooperation till complete of this job.

Volunteers from each block ( min. 2 person per block) are requested to come forward for supervising their own building blocks. They may given their name to me as soonest possible. Their responsibility is to identify the damaged part  of outer surface of the building and consolidate the same in a paper need to be repaired and finally submit to me or to Rajesh , our librarian for action within week's time. This will help us to cover up the maximum damaged part of the building may be missed by the contractor. Volunteers will also be trained what to be supervised during execution of repaired job. 

Kindly cooperate to help you.

सादर/Regards,
गौतम घोष /Goutam Ghosh
मोबाइल/Mobile: +91 9836134405

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[ranjan dasgupta]

Dear Shirsendu,

Thank you very much for forwarding the message of Mr. Goutam Ghosh (sent at 4:33 PM) at 4:26 PM.

As such I was waiting for your return call and not getting the same, I called Mr. Ghosh at around 2:15 pm yesterday and talked with him for more than 20 minutes. It was quite a long nice discussion and understood that unfortunately the things are not moving according the plan we discussed on 1^st November over telephone. It appears that he is also overburdened, which may cause problems related to both cost and time overrun and quality outcome. Mr. Ghosh also suggested me to make an honest attempt, if possible, to circumvent the difficulties he is facing.

May I suggest to conduct a small group meeting on Google Meet or otherwise on the forthcoming Saturday evening, say at 8 pm onward?

With best

Ranjan Dasgupta

A/3A

98304 98493

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Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:26 PM
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Subject: [Sugam Sabuj Paribar] Fwd: Job no. :1007 : Civil Repairing and Painting works of Sugam Sabuj started today

 

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[ranjan dasgupta]

Dear Mr.  Ghosh,

Hope you have noted that in my mail to Shirshendu I have mentioned -

 "It was quite a long nice discussion and understood that unfortunately the things are not moving according the plan we discussed on 1^st November over telephone. It appears that he is also overburdened, which may cause problems related to both cost and time overrun and quality outcome. Mr. Ghosh also suggested me to make an honest attempt, if possible, to circumvent the difficulties he is facing." 

I have never written that you have or have not said this or that as you mentioned in your response (1 - 4) - it was my understanding as mentioned above. I would be glad if my understanding is found wrong and the entire complex job is done properly and every stake holder becomes happy. In this context, I had a long discussion with our secretary (Mr. Shirshendu) on Nov 01 and I referred that discussion and my entire understanding about the work was on that framework, which I found much more rational with step by step (micro, meso & macro) planning etc. I have expressed my anxiety to him in reference to that discussion to make it better in comparison with my earlier experiences. Hope you have understood the concern of mine - it was nothing against you nor the team.

Regarding present repair work, as the formation of a new e-mail address has been communicated by Shirshendu, I shall express my views over there regarding my experience and other issues.

Hope to talk more once we meet again.

With best,

Ranjan Dasgupta

98304 98493

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From: GOUTAM GHOSH <goutam...@eil.co.in>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 9:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [Sugam Sabuj Paribar] Fwd: Job no. :1007 : Civil Repairing and Painting works of Sugam Sabuj started today

 

Dear Mr Ranjan Dasgupta,

 

Apologies for delay in response to your mail at which I was aghast.

 

Firstly, I would request you to be a more active part of the affairs of the Society, understand how it works, what are the compulsions, what are the limitations and stop finding negative in every matter.

I appreciate your concern about the Civil Repairing of Building works (Block-A & Block-B) actually started on 15^th December 2021 after initial mobilization period. But the way you delivered need to be more positive and cooperative.

                  

I think it is now known to all resident of Sugam Sabuj that a technical committee has been  formed to take care of all technical activities of our complex. The  technical committee are all very qualified and well experienced person. For e,g. Rtd. ED(P) SAIL, Rtd. Electrical Engineer of IOCL, Head of Engineers India Limited of Regional Office , Kolkata, retired experience Resident Construction Manager of Mega project, experience Finance person, Doctor, Software engineers & Advice of rtd. CA of SAIL( our treasurer). We are very fortunate that we got such a good team.

 

The Civil Repairing Tender  have been satisfactorily prepared by our technical committee through lot of interaction meeting recorded as MOM and was presented through our recent Spl. General Body meeting also, where you have also participated.   

 

Coming to the mail :

 

1. I never said that things are not moving as per plan, The Technical committee in charge of this is well aware of this. we are well within the timelines.

2. I have not mentioned that I am overburdened. Most residents in SS work hand in hand everyday to improve quality of life here. People living here can vouche for that. Many people take additional responsibility beyond their scope of work to make it happen. 

3. I am not sure how you concluded about my overburden and that it would result in cost  and time overrun. I am not a sole man handling this. You have neither gone through the process document for the job NOR are you aware that we have a team of competent and experienced people handling the entire project.

4. Coming to the point of execution of this project where minimum birth time is required to    built-up the coordination between Contractor and Owner. At this juncture you have shown your serious concern in a negative manner. I am always been a Gap filler whatever may be the load, because  I am a Project Engineer and accustoms with this kind situation every day in my official project in a cool manner.

 

The AGM has authorized the Technical Committee in this matter and they are well on track in doing this. Our successful contractor also have huge experience in similar type of work.

 

This kind of mail may mislead to other resident those are living outside Bengal. 

 

May I request you to come to the society, have a look at the process document thoroughly and then comment how you can contribute positively instead of commenting on mails and calling a meeting without understanding the whole perspective and plans.

 

 

Hope you will take this mail in the right spirit.

 

Stay safe and healthy.

 

Best Regards,

 

Goutam Ghosh

(Board member of SSAOA as well as part of Technical Committee of SSAOA)

M-9836134405

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