[First Project] The Adventures of Sally by P.G. Wodehouse

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Katie Geckle Tallmon

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Dec 3, 2025, 10:33:13 PM12/3/25

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Hello!

I am interested in trying my hand at a first project for Standard Ebooks.

If approved, I would like to work on The Adventures of Sally by P.G. Wodehouse.

This title is listed on the Wanted Ebooks list as a good first production choice, and I have a soft spot for Wodehouse, so this felt like the right choice.

I plan to use the HTML version of the book listed here (per the link on the Wanted Ebooks page): https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7464

The scans I intend to use, from the 1923 publication, are here: https://archive.org/details/bwb_KP-509-748

I am not sure how long this will take me, as have a full time job and a toddler, but I'm excited to get started!

I am a software engineer by day, which should help, but I haven't done any engineering work on a Mac in years, despite having one for my personal machine.

I love using Standard Ebooks and hope contributing in this way is something that is a good fit.

Thank you!

Best,

Katie

Alex Cabal

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Dec 4, 2025, 10:34:31 AM12/4/25

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Great, that one would be a good start.

The PG transcription has removed formatting including italics. You'll
have to look at each page of the page scans to restore italics (see for
example page 21 where there is an italicized I). Each chapter has
subchapters which are numbered in the transcription, but without
formatting, so you'll have to add sub-sections and a new <h#> level for
those.

Make sure to read the Standard Ebooks Manual of Style before starting,
as you won't know what to fix if you haven't read the standards. In
particular, please closely review the semantics, high level patterns,
and typography sections:

https://standardebooks.org/manual

https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/4-semantics

https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/7-high-level-structural-patterns

https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/8-typography

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When you're ready, email back with a link to your Github repository so
that I can assign you a manager and reviewer.

Have fun! :)

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Katie Geckle

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Thanks, Alex!

I appreciate the detail about the italics. I’ll make sure to be vigilant about that piece when I get that far.

I'll be sure to go through the documentation and ask questions when I come upon something I can't figure out.

Here is my GitHub repository with its first commit: https://github.com/katiearina/p-g-wodehouse_the-adventures-of-sally

Thank you!
Best,

Katie

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Alex Cabal

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OK, Emma will manage with Weijia reviewing.

On 12/4/25 6:50 PM, Katie Geckle wrote:
> Thanks, Alex!
>
> I appreciate the detail about the italics. I’ll make sure to be vigilant
> about that piece when I get that far.
>
> I'll be sure to go through the documentation and ask questions when I
> come upon something I can't figure out.
>
> Here is my GitHub repository with its first commit: https://github.com/

> katiearina/p-g-wodehouse_the-adventures-of-sally <https://github.com/
> katiearina/p-g-wodehouse_the-adventures-of-sally>

>
> Thank you!
> Best,
> Katie
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2025 at 10:34 AM Alex Cabal <al...@standardebooks.org
> <mailto:al...@standardebooks.org>> wrote:
>
> Great, that one would be a good start.
>
> The PG transcription has removed formatting including italics. You'll
> have to look at each page of the page scans to restore italics (see for
> example page 21 where there is an italicized I). Each chapter has
> subchapters which are numbered in the transcription, but without
> formatting, so you'll have to add sub-sections and a new <h#> level for
> those.
>
> Make sure to read the Standard Ebooks Manual of Style before starting,
> as you won't know what to fix if you haven't read the standards. In
> particular, please closely review the semantics, high level patterns,
> and typography sections:
>
> https://standardebooks.org/manual <https://standardebooks.org/manual>
>

> https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/4-semantics <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/latest/4-semantics>
>
> https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/7-high-level-structural-
> patterns <https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/7-high-level-
> structural-patterns>
>
> https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/8-typography <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/latest/8-typography>

>
> The step by step guide will take you from start to finish:
>
> https://standardebooks.org/contribute/producing-an-ebook-step-by-

> step <https://standardebooks.org/contribute/producing-an-ebook-step-
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>
> This page on common issues in older books may be useful:
>
> https://standardebooks.org/contribute/how-tos/common-issues-when-

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> contribute/how-tos/common-issues-when-working-on-public-domain-ebooks>

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> Please email often if you have any questions at all. Our standards are
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> whatever problem you've encountered.
>
> When you're ready, email back with a link to your Github repository so
> that I can assign you a manager and reviewer.
>
> Have fun! :)
>
>
> On 12/3/25 7:40 PM, Katie Geckle Tallmon wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > I am interested in trying my hand at a first project for Standard
> Ebooks.
> > If approved, I would like to work on The Adventures of Sally by P.G.
> > Wodehouse.
> > This title is listed on the Wanted Ebooks list as a good first
> > production choice, and I have a soft spot for Wodehouse, so this
> felt
> > like the right choice.
> >
> > I plan to use the HTML version of the book listed here (per the
> link on
> > the Wanted Ebooks page): https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7464
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7464>
> >
> > The scans I intend to use, from the 1923 publication, are
> here: https://

> > archive.org/details/bwb_KP-509-748 <http://archive.org/details/

> bwb_KP-509-748>
> >
> > I am not sure how long this will take me, as have a full time job
> and a
> > toddler, but I'm excited to get started!
> > I am a software engineer by day, which should help, but I haven't
> done
> > any engineering work on a Mac in years, despite having one for my
> > personal machine.
> >
> > I love using Standard Ebooks and hope contributing in this way is
> > something that is a good fit.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Best,
> > Katie
> >
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Weijia Cheng

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Dec 4, 2025, 9:53:11 PM12/4/25

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Ok, noted.

Katie Geckle Tallmon

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Hello!

Getting into the semantics pieces and have some questions.

I have some things in the text that might be considered "initials", but they are all singular -- e.g. a telegram that says "Remember. Death to the Family. S." (where S is Sally) and also a sentence that ends with "[...] it’s the best thing that has ever happened to Brother F." (where F is Fillmore)

Do I use the <abbr epub:type="z3998:given-name"> tag for these? I would err on the side of yes, but they aren't obvious initials in the traditional sense so wanted some guidance.

Another semantics question, this time about all caps: there's a letter referenced that says "“Always your pal, wherever I am.⁠—SALLY.”" -- would you treat the SALLY as a tag for unsemantic formatting required by the text? I did verify that "SALLY" is in all caps in the original scans.

Thank you in advance!

Best,

Katie

Emma Sweeney

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Dec 8, 2025, 8:31:14 PM12/8/25

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1. Yes, these should be tagged with <abbr epub:type="z3998:given-name">.

2. All cap names are never correct. Convert `SALLY` to `Sally` and tag it with (SEMoS 7.7.4.4 and the letter examples).

Emma

Katie Geckle Tallmon

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Dec 11, 2025, 7:53:53 PM12/11/25

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Thank you, Emma!

Sorry for the delay in response, life got away from me.

I have made those updates and am sure I will be referencing the letter examples frequently, since there are many of them tucked in here.

There are two other items in the text in all caps and I'm wondering how you would handle them:

The first is a theater poster (p. 125 in the archive.org scan) that says "Fillmore Nicholas presents" but in the book is stylized as:

FILLMORE NICHOLAS

PRESENTS

My best guess at this would be:

Fillmore Nicholas

presents

The other one is on p. 310 in the archive.org scan and is stylized as:

POPP'S

OUTSTANDING

PORK-PIES

SUCCULENT⁠⸺⁠APPETIZING⁠⸺⁠NUTRITIOUS.

(JUST SAY “POP!” A CHILD

CAN DO IT.)

The text calls this a cipher, though it appears to be more of an acrostic.

My guess at this one would be something like:

Popp's

Outstanding

Pork-Pies

Succulent⁠⸺⁠appetizing⁠⸺⁠nutritious. 
(Just say “Pop!” A child can do it.)

I don't feel sure about the capitalization of appetizing and nutritious here, but tried to do normal sentence-casing for the parenthetical (which may be incorrect, so guidance would be appreciated).

I'm also not sure if the line break is stylistic at the end of "A child" or just done to be centered on the page, so there could be a after "child" but it doesn't seem as stylistically relevant as the others to me, so I'd err on the side of leaving that out.

I'm sure there will be more questions soon enough, but I'm working on the hunt for italicized words now to at least get the majority of those accounted for.

Thank you in advance for your help with these!

Best,

Katie

Emma Sweeney

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Dec 12, 2025, 6:04:20 AM12/12/25

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1. For page 125, I would structure it like:

Fillmore Nicholas

presents

</blockquote>

You can then style it so that the whole blockquote is in small caps, and you can also target the element and style it with `font-size: larger;`.

2. The structure looks good. Make sure it is a <blockquote> element. Since this is considered a cipher, I recommend styling this with `font-variant-caps: all-small-caps;`.

If you need more specific instructions on how to format the custom CSS let me know.

Emma

Katie Geckle Tallmon

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Dec 12, 2025, 8:47:22 PM12/12/25

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Hey Emma!

Thank you so much!

The only question I have about the custom CSS is if there is a best practice for how it is done for SE.

I am familiar with CSS in general, but am not finding the details for the specific preference here (I might be missing it, but tried searching in the guide and repo and also cross-referencing other books' local.css files, but could not determine a consistent pattern in them).

Basically, is it okay to add a class or ID (e.g. a "poster" class/ID or a "cipher" class/ID) to pinpoint the spot where the formatting is needed, or should it be derived from the existing ID and class combinations in the text as a CSS selector?

Thank you again and appreciate all the guidance and how quick you are to reply!

Best,

Katie

Emma Sweeney

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Dec 12, 2025, 10:12:38 PM12/12/25

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Classes are not used as one-time style hooks (SEMoS 1.1.7.4.1). Since theses are one-offs, target the file id and the specific <blockquote> the text appears in.

Emma

Katie Geckle

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Dec 12, 2025, 10:21:16 PM12/12/25

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Great! Thank you, Emma!

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Katie Geckle Tallmon

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Hello!

Been working away on italics as I have time over the holidays and landed on a few things that I wanted some feedback on:

First, the line "the telegram ran:" after the specified telegram.
Should I leave the colon as-is? It's not a stylization I've seen before so I wasn't sure if there was a convention around this:
Where in the text the play name ("The Primrose Way") is specified, I've removed the quotation marks and subbed in the tags around it, as that seems to be what is specified in 8.2.11.2
My question is around talk of The Primrose Way [play] Company.
The following two examples are in the book:

Since neither of these are in quotation marks (e.g. "The Primrose Way" Company), and the "the" is lowercase, I have not added any italicization or type-marking to those two instances since they seem different than the other explicit references to the play by name.
However, I wanted to confirm that this is the correct instinct, and also ask about whether "company" or "Company" is correct, since to me there appears to be an inconsistency there. (I believe that would be an Editorial commit if a change is needed, so I may wait to actually make that until later, but wanted to square it away now if I can.)

Thank you in advance!

Happy holidays!

Best,

Katie

Emma Sweeney

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Dec 29, 2025, 4:10:18 PM12/29/25

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1. Leave the colon as-is.

2. You're correct; the name of a theater company shouldn't be in italics or quotes. You can standardize both instances to be "the Primrose Way Company" in an editorial commit.

Emma

Katie Geckle

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Dec 29, 2025, 4:33:09 PM12/29/25

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Thank you, Emma!

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Katie Geckle Tallmon

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Hello again!

A few more Wodehouse oddities that I want to confirm before checking in the next round of italicizations:

In this first one, asking about the italicization of both "Follies" and "Myrtle takes a Turkish Bath"

The latter seems to be the name of a fictional Broadway play, as the paragraph after it talks about seeing shows every night on Broadway, implying this is one of them (p. 269 for reference), so I feel like the correct tag here is -- would appreciate confirmation that this seems accurate.
I am slightly on the fence for Follies -- it seems the name of a Broadway show, but is it correct to also tag it as ? It doesn't seem like a play, per se, but I didn't know if there was a more accurate tag for something like this.
(8.2.11.2 talks about things like operas and films, which seem closer in spirit but obviously not technically correct)

In this second one, asking about use of for these passages, when obviously many of the words are not actually Italian, but the implication in the text is that the listener is hearing them as if they were entirely Italian and they are italicized as such. Right now I have them all tagged as but wanted to make sure that was the correct choice before checking them in.
(Bottom of p. 277 to top of p. 278 for reference)

Thank you in advance! Almost done hunting down the italics in the transcription (hopefully!)

Best,
Katie

Alex Cabal

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Plays/shows are always in italics.

I think Italian semantics are fine for those passages, as presumably
they're at least meant to be read in some sort of Italian accent.

On 1/12/26 8:10 PM, Katie Geckle Tallmon wrote:
> Hello again!
>
> A few more Wodehouse oddities that I want to confirm before checking in
> the next round of italicizations:
>

> 1. TheaterShows.png

> In this first one, asking about the italicization of both "Follies"
> and "Myrtle takes a Turkish Bath"

> * The latter seems to be the name of a fictional Broadway play, as

> the paragraph after it talks about seeing shows every night on
> Broadway, implying this is one of them (p. 269 for reference

> <https://archive.org/details/bwb_KP-509-748/page/269/mode/1up>),

> so I feel like the correct tag here is epub:type="se:name.publication.play"> -- would appreciate
> confirmation that this seems accurate.

> * I am slightly on the fence for Follies -- it seems the name of a

> Broadway show, but is it correct to also tag it as <i

> epub:type="se:name.publication.play">? It doesn't seem like a /
> play/, per se, but I didn't know if there was a more accurate

> tag for something like this.

> (8.2.11.2 <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/single-
> page#8.2.11.2> talks about things like operas and films, which

> seem closer in spirit but obviously not technically correct)
>

> 2. Italian1.pngItalian2.png

> In this second one, asking about use of for these

> passages, when obviously many of the words are not /
> actually/ Italian, but the implication in the text is that the

> listener is hearing them as if they were entirely Italian and they
> are italicized as such. Right now I have them all tagged as xml:lang="it"> but wanted to make sure that was the correct choice
> before checking them in.

> (Bottom of p. 277 to top of p. 278 for reference <https://
> archive.org/details/bwb_KP-509-748/page/277/mode/1up>)

>
>
> Thank you in advance! Almost done hunting down the italics in the
> transcription (hopefully!)
> Best,
> Katie
> On Monday, December 29, 2025 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-5 Katie Geckle Tallmon wrote:
>
> Thank you, Emma!
>
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2025 at 4:10 PM Emma Sweeney <sween...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 1. Leave the colon as-is.
>
> 2. You're correct; the name of a theater company shouldn't be in
> italics or quotes. You can standardize both instances to be
> "the Primrose Way Company" in an editorial commit.
>
>
> Emma
> On Sunday, December 28, 2025 at 8:23:56 PM UTC-5
> katie...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello!
> Been working away on italics as I have time over the
> holidays and landed on a few things that I wanted some
> feedback on:
>

> 1. First, the line "the telegram ran:" after the specified

> telegram.
> Should I leave the colon as-is? It's not a stylization
> I've seen before so I wasn't sure if there was a

> convention around this:TAoS-p158.png
> 2. Where in the text the play name ("The Primrose Way") is

> specified, I've removed the quotation marks and subbed

> in the <i epub:type="se:name.publication.play <http://

> name.publication.play>"> tags around it, as that

> seems to be what is specified in 8.2.11.2 <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/single-page#8.2.11.2>

> My question is around talk of The Primrose Way [play]
> Company.
> The following two examples are in the book:
>

> TAoS-PrimroseWaycompany.png

> TAoS-PrimroseWayCompany2.png
> Since neither of these are in quotation marks (e.g. "The
> Primrose Way" Company), and the "the" is lowercase, I have
> not added any italicization or type-marking to those two
> instances since they seem different than the other explicit
> references to the play by name.
> However, I wanted to confirm that this is the correct

> instinct, /and/ also ask about whether "company" or

> "Company" is correct, since to me there appears to be an
> inconsistency there. (I believe that would be an Editorial
> commit if a change is needed, so I may wait to actually make
> that until later, but wanted to square it away now if I can.)
>
> Thank you in advance!
> Happy holidays!
> Best,
> Katie
>
> On Friday, December 12, 2025 at 10:21:16 PM UTC-5 Katie
> Geckle Tallmon wrote:
>
> Great! Thank you, Emma!
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2025 at 10:12 PM Emma Sweeney
> <sween...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Classes are not used as one-time style hooks (SEMoS

> 1.1.7.4.1 <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/
> single-page#1.1.7.4.1>). Since theses are one-offs,

> the archive.org scan <https://
> archive.org/details/bwb_KP-509-748/
> page/125/mode/1up>) that says "Fillmore

> Nicholas presents" but in the book is
> stylized as:

> *FILLMORE NICHOLAS*
> *PRESENTS*

>
> My best guess at this would be:
> Fillmore Nicholas 
> presents
>
> The other one is on p. 310 in the

> archive.org scan <https://archive.org/
> details/bwb_KP-509-748/page/310/
> mode/1up> and is stylized as:
> *POPP'S*
> *OUTSTANDING*
> *PORK-PIES*
> *SUCCULENT⁠⸺⁠APPETIZING⁠⸺⁠NUTRITIOUS.*
> *(JUST SAY “POP!” A CHILD*
> *CAN DO IT.)*
> *
> *

> The text calls this a cipher, though it
> appears to be more of an acrostic.
> My guess at this one would be something
> like:
> Popp's 
> Outstanding 
> Pork-Pies 
> Succulent⁠⸺⁠appetizing⁠⸺⁠nutritious. 
> (Just say “Pop!” A child can do it.)
>
> I don't feel sure about the
> capitalization of appetizing and
> nutritious here, but tried to do normal
> sentence-casing for the parenthetical
> (which may be incorrect, so guidance
> would be appreciated).
> I'm also not sure if the line break is
> stylistic at the end of "A child" or
> just done to be centered on the page, so

> there /could/ be a after "child"

> but it doesn't seem as stylistically
> relevant as the others to me, so I'd err
> on the side of leaving that out.
>
> I'm sure there will be more questions
> soon enough, but I'm working on the hunt
> for italicized words now to at least get
> the majority of those accounted for.
> Thank you in advance for your help with
> these!
> Best,
> Katie
> On Monday, December 8, 2025 at
> 8:31:14 PM UTC-5 Emma Sweeney wrote:
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> 1. Yes, these should be tagged with
> <abbr epub:type="z3998:given-name">.
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> 2. All cap names are never correct.
> Convert `SALLY` to `Sally` and tag
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Oops, responded slightly too quickly.

So for Follies, se:name.publication.play is the correct semantic choice for tagging?

Thank you!

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Correct!

On 1/13/26 6:51 AM, Katie Geckle wrote:
> Oops, responded slightly too quickly.
>

> So for Follies, se:name.publication.play <http://name.publication.play>

> is the correct semantic choice for tagging?
>
> Thank you!
> Best,
> Katie
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2026 at 7:40 AM Katie Geckle <katie...@gmail.com
> <mailto:katie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Great! Thank you for the confirmation, Alex!
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 10:09 PM 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks
> <standar...@googlegroups.com

> <mailto:standar...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>
> Plays/shows are always in italics.
>
> I think Italian semantics are fine for those passages, as
> presumably
> they're at least meant to be read in some sort of Italian accent.
>
> On 1/12/26 8:10 PM, Katie Geckle Tallmon wrote:
> > Hello again!
> >
> > A few more Wodehouse oddities that I want to confirm before
> checking in
> > the next round of italicizations:
> >
> > 1. TheaterShows.png
> > In this first one, asking about the italicization of both
> "Follies"
> > and "Myrtle takes a Turkish Bath"
> > * The latter seems to be the name of a fictional
> Broadway play, as
> > the paragraph after it talks about seeing shows every
> night on
> > Broadway, implying this is one of them (p. 269 for
> reference
> > <https://archive.org/details/bwb_KP-509-748/page/269/

> mode/1up <https://archive.org/details/bwb_KP-509-748/page/269/

> mode/1up>>),
> > so I feel like the correct tag here is <i

> > epub:type="se:name.publication.play <http://

> name.publication.play>"> -- would appreciate
> > confirmation that this seems accurate.
> > * I am slightly on the fence for Follies -- it seems
> the name of a
> > Broadway show, but is it correct to also tag it as <i

> > epub:type="se:name.publication.play <http://

> name.publication.play>">? It doesn't seem like a /
> > play/, per se, but I didn't know if there was a more
> accurate
> > tag for something like this.
> > (8.2.11.2 <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/

> single- <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/single->

> > page#8.2.11.2> talks about things like operas and
> films, which
> > seem closer in spirit but obviously not technically
> correct)
> >
> > 2. Italian1.pngItalian2.png
> > In this second one, asking about use of 
> for these
> > passages, when obviously many of the words are not /
> > actually/ Italian, but the implication in the text is
> that the
> > listener is hearing them as if they were entirely Italian
> and they
> > are italicized as such. Right now I have them all tagged
> as > xml:lang="it"> but wanted to make sure that was the
> correct choice
> > before checking them in.
> > (Bottom of p. 277 to top of p. 278 for reference <https://

> > archive.org/details/bwb_KP-509-748/page/277/mode/1up <http://

> archive.org/details/bwb_KP-509-748/page/277/mode/1up>>)
> >
> >
> > Thank you in advance! Almost done hunting down the italics in
> the
> > transcription (hopefully!)
> > Best,
> > Katie
> > On Monday, December 29, 2025 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-5 Katie Geckle
> Tallmon wrote:
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> > Thank you, Emma!
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 29, 2025 at 4:10 PM Emma Sweeney

> <sween...@gmail.com <mailto:sween...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > 1. Leave the colon as-is.
> >
> > 2. You're correct; the name of a theater company
> shouldn't be in
> > italics or quotes. You can standardize both instances
> to be
> > "the Primrose Way Company" in an editorial commit.
> >
> >
> > Emma
> > On Sunday, December 28, 2025 at 8:23:56 PM UTC-5

> > katie...@gmail.com <mailto:katie...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Hello!
> > Been working away on italics as I have time over the
> > holidays and landed on a few things that I wanted
> some
> > feedback on:
> >
> > 1. First, the line "the telegram ran:" after the
> specified
> > telegram.
> > Should I leave the colon as-is? It's not a
> stylization
> > I've seen before so I wasn't sure if there was a
> > convention around this:TAoS-p158.png
> > 2. Where in the text the play name ("The
> Primrose Way") is
> > specified, I've removed the quotation marks
> and subbed
> > in the <i epub:type="se:name.publication.play

> <http://name.publication.play> <http://
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> >
> > Emma
> > On Friday, December 12, 2025 at
> 8:47:22 PM UTC-5

> <mailto:katie...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Sorry for the delay in
> response, life
> > got away from me.
> > I have made those updates and
> am sure I
> > will be referencing the
> letter examples
> > frequently, since there are
> many of them
> > tucked in here.
> >
> > There are two other items in
> the text in
> > all caps and I'm wondering
> how you would
> > handle them:
> > The first is a theater poster
> (p. 125 in

> > the archive.org <http://
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> > archive.org/details/bwb_KP-509-748/ <http://archive.org/

> details/bwb_KP-509-748/>
> > page/125/mode/1up>) that says
> "Fillmore
> > Nicholas presents" but in the
> book is
> > stylized as:
> > *FILLMORE NICHOLAS*
> > *PRESENTS*
> >
> > My best guess at this would be:
> > Fillmore Nicholas 
> > presents
> >
> > The other one is on p. 310 in the

> > archive.org <http://archive.org> scan <https://archive.org/

> standardebooks.org/ <https://standardebooks.org/>

> > manual/1.8.4/single-
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> letter examples).
> >
> >
> > Emma
> > On Monday, December 8,
> 2025 at
> > 8:18:12 PM UTC-5

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> > >
> > > Thank you!
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> > > Katie
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> > >
> > > On Thu,
> Dec 4, 2025
> > at 10:34 AM
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Great! Much appreciated!

Katie Geckle Tallmon

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Hello!

I had a few questions after running se modernize-spelling .

The first is "Tea-Pot" which it wants to change to "Teapot" -- given the context, "Tea-Pot" seems the correct choice:
The second is "pork-pies" which are referenced all over the place; the suggested replacement is "porkpies" but the book is talking about the actual food item, not the hat. I can see changing this to "pork pies" but am not sure if that is a valid replacement (and, if so, should it be made in an editorial commit?) or should this just be left as-is?
The last is "jiu-jitsu" which has a suggested replacement of "jiujitsu" -- I've never seen it spelled that way before and a Google seems to back that up. It is seemingly almost always referred to as "jiu-jitsu" in everything I've come across and even the Merriam-Webster entry for "jiujitsu" without the hyphen says it is the "less common spelling of jujitsu"

Screenshots of the scans for context, if that helps.

All of the other changes from se modernize-spelling . appear to be valid (even though "boardinghouse" looks wrong to me, it seems like it is a valid replacement and is used in other Wodehouse repos), but I wanted to get an additional set of eyes on the above three items before I move on to the spacing changes and the resulting commit.

Thank you!

Best,

Katie

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1. It looks like there are some editions that change "Tea-Pot" to "Teapot" (example). Let's go with "Teapot".

2. You can leave as-is.

3. Use jiujitsu. It has a slightly different pronunciation than jujitsu.

Emma

Katie Geckle

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Feb 12, 2026, 7:05:52 AM (2 days ago) Feb 12

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Will do! Thank you, Emma!

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