Moving from Github to Codeberg? (Or something like it?)
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devino...@gmail.com
Feb 14, 2026, 8:58:01 PMFeb 14
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Hello all,
After reading the thread about migrating from Google groups to Zulip, I was wondering if we might do the same for GitHub, which I know has had various complaints against it (and is a subsidiary of Microsoft, so deterioration is pretty much inevitable at this point).
I know that Codeberg is a FOSS alternative to GitHub that's hosted in Germany, that's meant to be a repository hosting service for FOSS projects. It also seems like it's more in line with Standard Ebooks's ethos. Have we thought about migrating our repository hosting to there?
It seems really similar to GitHub, and wouldn't be subject to Microsoft (or the US's) whims.
Devin
Paul Bryan
Feb 14, 2026, 9:20:48 PMFeb 14
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I'd support such a move. My only footprint left on GitHub is for SE.
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Robin Whittleton
Feb 15, 2026, 2:04:41 AMFeb 15
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We can’t move to Codeberg because a chunk of what we do is against Codeberg’s ToS: it’s still in copyright in life plus 70 countries. What we potentially could do is host a Forgejo instance ourselves on a server within the US.
-Robin
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Alex Cabal
Feb 15, 2026, 10:44:35 AMFeb 15
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Also, the desire to move is not because of any moral stand against
Github/Microsoft, rather from the desire to host the solution ourselves.
If you look at previous threads on the topic, the main requirement is
that it be self hosted. So Forgejo would, I guess, be the equivalent
solution here.
However since the rise of AI and its badly-behaved scrapers,
self-hosting a Git instance is looking much less appealing. All I read
about is badly-behaved AI scrapers constantly taking down self-hosted
Git interfaces and ours would be a prime target. Maybe if Anubis was put
in front of it? I don't know.
On 2/15/26 2:04 AM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> We can’t move to Codeberg because a chunk of what we do is against
> Codeberg’s ToS: it’s still in copyright in life plus 70 countries. What
> we potentially could do is host a Forgejo instance ourselves on a server
> within the US.
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 15 Feb 2026, at 03:20, 'Paul Bryan' via Standard Ebooks
>> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'd support such a move. My only footprint left on GitHub is for SE.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 14, 2026, at 17:58, devino...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:devino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> After reading the thread about migrating from Google groups to Zulip,
>>> I was wondering if we might do the same for GitHub, which I know has
>>> had various complaints <https://sfconservancy.org/GiveUpGitHub/>
>>> c79dfc5c-7e1c-4bbb-88a7-096796cd7f38n%40googlegroups.com <https://
>>> groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/
>>> c79dfc5c-7e1c-4bbb-88a7-096796cd7f38n%40googlegroups.com?
>>> utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/578d5455-791e-47dd-
>> a793-00fc73f63f81%40app.fastmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/116E4635-B316-492F-
> AAC2-42973CD0EEB1%40reala.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.
Github/Microsoft, rather from the desire to host the solution ourselves.
If you look at previous threads on the topic, the main requirement is
that it be self hosted. So Forgejo would, I guess, be the equivalent
solution here.
However since the rise of AI and its badly-behaved scrapers,
self-hosting a Git instance is looking much less appealing. All I read
about is badly-behaved AI scrapers constantly taking down self-hosted
Git interfaces and ours would be a prime target. Maybe if Anubis was put
in front of it? I don't know.
On 2/15/26 2:04 AM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> We can’t move to Codeberg because a chunk of what we do is against
> Codeberg’s ToS: it’s still in copyright in life plus 70 countries. What
> we potentially could do is host a Forgejo instance ourselves on a server
> within the US.
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 15 Feb 2026, at 03:20, 'Paul Bryan' via Standard Ebooks
>> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'd support such a move. My only footprint left on GitHub is for SE.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 14, 2026, at 17:58, devino...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:devino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> After reading the thread about migrating from Google groups to Zulip,
>>> I was wondering if we might do the same for GitHub, which I know has
>>> against it (and is a subsidiary of Microsoft, so deterioration is
>>> pretty much inevitable at this point).
>>>
>>> I know that Codeberg <https://codeberg.org> is a FOSS alternative to
>>> pretty much inevitable at this point).
>>>
>>> GitHub that's hosted in Germany, that's meant to be a repository
>>> hosting service for FOSS projects. It also seems like it's more in
>>> line with Standard Ebooks's ethos. Have we thought about migrating
>>> our repository hosting to there?
>>>
>>> It seems really similar to GitHub, and wouldn't be subject to
>>> Microsoft (or the US's) whims.
>>>
>>> Devin
>>>
>>>
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>>> hosting service for FOSS projects. It also seems like it's more in
>>> line with Standard Ebooks's ethos. Have we thought about migrating
>>> our repository hosting to there?
>>>
>>> It seems really similar to GitHub, and wouldn't be subject to
>>> Microsoft (or the US's) whims.
>>>
>>> Devin
>>>
>>>
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Alex Cabal
Feb 15, 2026, 10:54:49 AMFeb 15
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Also note that Github is not *required* if you want to create an SE
ebook. You can certainly use Codeberg for hosting your public repo, no
problem. However once your ebook is done we will clone it into the SE
Github account and future work must occur there.
On 2/14/26 9:20 PM, 'Paul Bryan' via Standard Ebooks wrote:
> I'd support such a move. My only footprint left on GitHub is for SE.
>
> On Sat, Feb 14, 2026, at 17:58, devino...@gmail.com
> <mailto:devino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> After reading the thread about migrating from Google groups to Zulip,
>> I was wondering if we might do the same for GitHub, which I know has
>> had various complaints <https://sfconservancy.org/GiveUpGitHub/>
ebook. You can certainly use Codeberg for hosting your public repo, no
problem. However once your ebook is done we will clone it into the SE
Github account and future work must occur there.
On 2/14/26 9:20 PM, 'Paul Bryan' via Standard Ebooks wrote:
> I'd support such a move. My only footprint left on GitHub is for SE.
>
> On Sat, Feb 14, 2026, at 17:58, devino...@gmail.com
> <mailto:devino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> After reading the thread about migrating from Google groups to Zulip,
>> I was wondering if we might do the same for GitHub, which I know has
>> against it (and is a subsidiary of Microsoft, so deterioration is
>> pretty much inevitable at this point).
>>
>> I know that Codeberg <https://codeberg.org> is a FOSS alternative to
>> pretty much inevitable at this point).
>>
>> GitHub that's hosted in Germany, that's meant to be a repository
>> hosting service for FOSS projects. It also seems like it's more in
>> line with Standard Ebooks's ethos. Have we thought about migrating our
>> repository hosting to there?
>>
>> It seems really similar to GitHub, and wouldn't be subject to
>> Microsoft (or the US's) whims.
>>
>> Devin
>>
>>
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>> hosting service for FOSS projects. It also seems like it's more in
>> line with Standard Ebooks's ethos. Have we thought about migrating our
>> repository hosting to there?
>>
>> It seems really similar to GitHub, and wouldn't be subject to
>> Microsoft (or the US's) whims.
>>
>> Devin
>>
>>
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Paul Bryan
Feb 15, 2026, 12:02:38 PMFeb 15
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Cool! Noted for next project.
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