[Next project] Romola, by George Eliot

[David]

The Sayers & Eustace project will soon be finished, so thoughts are turning to the next one.

I might regret this, but I think it's time for George Eliot's _Romola_:

PG: https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/24020
IA: https://archive.org/details/worksofgeorgeeli0000geor_r2h8

Repo: https://github.com/dajare/george-eliot_romola

It's around 230K words. Unfortunately, the PG transcription inlined all the footnotes, so they will need to be restored. It also omitted the three-book structure (not "volumes"), and that also will need to be restored. There will be a lot of language semantics to add.

Otherwise, I hope it holds me! :) Hope this looks okay to be getting on with.

[Alex Cabal]

Sounds good! Emma will manage with Robin reviewing.

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[David]

Just looking for confirmation (or otherwise!), Emma, on a language issue.

There are a LOT of un-italicized Italian strings in this transcription. They're of different kinds:

(1) Sometimes the term has italics on first instance, followed by definition, then used repeated without, e.g.`becchetto` (but this one only 8x in the book). -> could be okay? cf. SEMoS 8.2.10.1? (i.e., Italics + semantics for first occurrence, but not for the rest.)

(2) Sometimes they are used without italics at all, e.g. `Frate` (friar) or `Frate Predicatore` (friar preacher). (Not in MW's "basic search results",, of course.), Or you get some random Italian thrown in in dialog (e.g “Silenzio!”; + following paragraph, “Donna!”).

(3) Sometimes you just get an unmarked string of Latin or Italian. Or like: `It is a ‘buona fortuna,’...` (but second occurrence of this phrase does have italics!). 

My assumption is that both (2) and (3) should always attract italics + semantics. Or, are there cases where these should be span + semantics, since not italicized in source?

Thanks for your help with this!

[David]

And another semantics question: there are six instances of full dates in the book, falling between 1492 and 1509. I have them marked up with (e.g.): 

    <time datetime="1494-11-17">17th of November 1494</time>

It occurs to me that these will be Julian. Do I adjust the `datetime` to Gregorian? Or just match the semantic number with the date in the text? (Hope that makes sense!)

(I think this came up in a production I did that Robin reviewed, but my memory is both hazy and fallible.)

[Robin Whittleton]

That should be converted to Gregorian, yep. (See Pepys, Lazarillo, etc). But I understand that not everyone is as geeky as me on this subject.

-Robin

On 6 Mar 2026, at 17:10, David <djre...@gmail.com> wrote:



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[Alex Cabal]

They *must* be, that is part of the HTML spec.

On 3/6/26 10:23 AM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> That should be converted to Gregorian, yep. (See Pepys, Lazarillo, etc).
> But I understand that not everyone is as geeky as me on this subject.
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> -Robin
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>> On 6 Mar 2026, at 17:10, David <djre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> And another semantics question: there are six instances of full dates
>> in the book, falling between 1492 and 1509. I have them marked up with
>> (e.g.):
>>     <time datetime="1494-11-17">17th of November 1494</time>
>>
>> It occurs to me that these will be Julian. Do I adjust the `datetime`
>> to Gregorian? Or just match the semantic number with the date in the
>> text? (Hope that makes sense!)
>>
>> (I think this came up in a production I did that Robin reviewed, but
>> my memory is both hazy and fallible.)
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[David Reimer]

Glad I asked! And handy to find this "calculator":
https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/#juliancalendar

(In case anyone else is looking for such a thing.)