Funeral expenses…..for pensioners

[Suryanarayana Ambadipudi]

National Coordination Committee of Pensioners Associations (NCCPA) CHQ
No.NCCPA /Funeral Exp Dated 01.08.2025
To
The Honourable Prime Minister
Government of India
New Delhi – 110001

Sir;
Sub: Request for grant of Funeral Expenses to Pensioners and Staff of Government – regarding.

The NCCPA CHQ wish to submit this request for funeral expenses to Pensioners for your kind and sympathetic consideration.

It is definitely not out of place to mention that the Andhra Pradesh State Government is paying the funeral expenses of Rs,10,000 to all Pensioners and Family Pensioners on their death. The Tamilnadu State Government is paying a sum of Rs.50,000 as Family Relief Fund to the dying Pensioners on recovery of 80/- per month from Pensioners.

 Recently on 23.07.2025, the UCO Bank has ordered a sum of Rs.20,000 to the family member of the dying staff to meet the funeral expenses accepting the recommendation of the Staff Welfare Committee. 

Thus the payment made is absolutely essential to bury or cremate the senior citizen honourably.
The Central Government is void of any such scheme to pay the family member of the dying pensioner any sum as Funeral Expenses. The concerned Staff Welfare Committees functioning in some departments also worry only about the serving staff but not the family condition of Pensioners, which is pathetic in most cases.

The NCCPA CHQ requests the Honourable Prime Minister to consider the plight of the family of the Pensioners and the need to bury or cremate honourably the dead bodies of senior citizens, and grant adequate sum from the consolidated fund of India as ‘Funeral Expenses’. The NCCPA and the community of Pensioners will remain grateful to you for your benevolent act.
With Regards.
Yours Faithfully,
Sd/- (K.Ragavendran)
Secretary General, NCCPA

     

A.SURYANARAYANA

The less you speak,the more you are listened to

[Surendra Varma]

I am not a pensioner, so  I must at the outset admit that my views may not sink. So, my apologies.

I personally believe that support from the government to those journeying to the door of death, whether pensioners or those who gave their sweat and blood to the country with no pension during their twilight years, is more important than covering their funeral expenses.

What is it that makes a pensioner superior and entitled to funeral expenses covered by the government, but not an inferior non-pensioner. They both die as human beings. 

Among HIndus, as I understand from my senior family members, covering the entire cremation expenses of a loved one in the family is considered a sacred duty (punya in Hindi), and an offer from the government to cover the funeral expenses is seen as an insu.

Here, in the U.S.I am currently visiting,I understand there are funeral insurance plans for people to buy to cover their funeral expenses. The piece of the land they will be buried in, is called a plot (in India a plot means a piece of land on which a house stands!) and must be bought in a cemetery by the dead before his death or his family when he dies. A basic funeral procedure here with no fanfare costs US$ 5000 (Rs 432,500 approx.). Why can't we introduce such an insurance plan, open to all, including the pensioners.

Why should there be a distinction between haves and have nots in India even in the crematoriums, let alone in temples?

Suren

  

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[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

In that case differentiation is in pension and others. So. What will apply to others alone should be claimed?  Have nots are have nots. So haves cannot be envied. 

K Rajaram IRS 

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[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

I read with interest. What is meant by extended benefit?  Suppose I don't own any house nor rent one and so AM UNABLE TO CLAIM DEDUCTION OF HRA then can i say it is differentiation? A law is passed and applicable universally subject to qualifications. Because one cannot, law cannot be abused. Banks cannot give as any deduction but as a welfare measure as deductible out of their profit. So the Govt pension governed by the Consolidated Fund of India and welfare measures of a company are totally different.   KR  IRS  4825

On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 at 10:32, Colinjivadi Mahadevan <chmah...@gmail.com> wrote:

Recently State Bank of India and UCO Bank have announced the sanction of funeral expenses to the pensioners of their respective Banks.

This is only an extended benefit beyond pension.

C H Mahadevan

[Suryanarayana Ambadipudi]

SBI gives ₹ 30000 to pensioners towards funeral expenses 

     

A.SURYANARAYANA

The less you speak,the more you are listened to

[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

Many more companies are there under staff welfare 

[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

The write up I find is only an envious situation of an ordy person who does not like the other minds. There were always differentiation and discriminations and shall continue forever of which, no one can criticise, since there is no comparison posts and employment. A police officer , an Inspector of excise and customs can be killed while on duty and may serve 24 by 7 but DO YOU PAY THEM DOUBLE YOUR SALARY while the LIC top man  is unknown and lives safely. A nurse who does all the worst services for the worst patients holding her or him, which a doctor is supposed to do, gets paid less than the doctors; why don't we triple the salary of the nurse?; you will not agree. So whenever your ration goes down you will question -HOW I'M DIFFERENT FROM HIM; but when you were drawing more than him, you might say YOU ARE SUPERIOR IN SERVICE? So discrimination in the society shall be there; even if there is a constitution it shall exist ; that is Karma. WHERE THERE IS AN EVIDENCE THAT IN THE SAME DEPT JUNIOR DRAWING MORE THAN THE SENIOR CAN APPLY AND SET IT RIGHT; BUT ONE CANNOT QUOTE IFS WITH IRS IR IA&AS AND DEMAND EQUITY. SERVICE RULES ARE FRAMED IN SUCH A MANNER THAT PAY COMMISSION MUST RESPECT ALL OF THEM. SO NO ONE CAN SAY WHAT IS INEQUITY UNLESS FACTS ARE NOT BASED ON EQUITY WHICH IS A COURT PROCEDURE. Another way, all union leaders must quit and shelve themselves and then the whole scenario may be tried for a change. NO ONE CAN HAVE THE CAKE AND EAT IT TOO. K RAJARAM IRS 5825

On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 at 20:10, Colinjivadi Mahadevan <chmah...@gmail.com> wrote:

In case of Central Government pensioners and State Government pensioners, updated pension is being paid as per the recommendation of the latest Central Pay Commission Recommendations  and the pension so updated is comparatively higher than similarly placed pensioners of  Public Sector Banks  and LIC and General Insurance Corporation  and public sector General insurance companies. There are inter- cadre and intra- cadre  disparities in pension.

For example, an Executive Director  of LIC ( who is just below the cadre of Managing Director of LIC) retired before 1/4/1993 is drawing a gross pension of Rs 39182 as on date  while a Driver who retired after 1/8/2022 gets Rs 41214. Interestingly family pensioners of deceased retirees of lower cadres in LIC are drawing more gross pension than  pre-August 2002 retiree -pensioners of higher cadres. This must be the situation in Public Sector Banks and General Insurance companies. In such a situation, granting extra benefits like for funeral expenses - which is a pittance-makes no sense.

C H Mahadevan

[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

The Supreme Court has held that these three articles (14, 19, and 21) are interconnected and form a "Golden Triangle," which provides comprehensive protection to individual rights. Articles 14 and 21 are two fundamental rights enshrined in the Indian Constitution. Article 14 guarantees the right to equality before the law and equal protection of the laws, while Article 21 protects the right to life and personal liberty. These two articles, along with Article 19, are often referred to as the "Golden Triangle" of the Indian Constitution, highlighting their fundamental importance to individual rights and freedoms.

 Yes ONLY IF INEQUALITY BEFORE LAW IS ESTABLISHED SC WILL RULE IN YOUR FAVOUR; OR ELSE THERE ARE SO MANY CASES AND WRIT OF MANDAMUS FAILED BEFORE THE APEX COURT. THE STATUTE AND THE RULES OF GOVERNANCE ARE DIFFERENT LIKE SRUTI AND SMRITI.    `

          CONSTITUTIONALLY LAW IS FRAMED WHICH MAY BE CHALLENGED. EXECUTION OF A PLAN ARE MADE ONLY AS RULES FIT ENOUGH IN THAT PRESENTI AND RETROSPECTIVE EFFECT CANNOT BE ATTRIBUTED AS PER THE VERDICTS OF THE SC, UNLESS THERE ARE /WERE EXCEPTIONAL RULES MADE THEN. BY GENERAL LAW IT IS ALWAYS THERE THAT NO JUNIOR MAY DRAW MORE THAN THE SENIOR. BUT IT IS NOT FOR THE GOVT TO GO THROUGH; BUT YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT JUNIOR AND YOURSELF WHERE THE BENEFITS ARE MORE FOR THE JUNIOR AND MAKE A CLAIM; THEN YOUR ACCOUNTS DEPT WILL RAISE YOUR LEVEL. THUS RULES ARE FRAMED ONLY FOR A PERIOD AND CANNOT BE STRETCHED TO YOUR ARMS’ LENGTHS. IF THERE IS DISCRIMINATION BETWEEN 1930 BORN PENSIONER AND 1960 BORN PENSIONER, UNDER RULES, IT IS NOT THE DISCRIMINATION BEFORE LAW. EQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW, CAN BE THWARTED BY AN ALPHABET IN YOUR CHARACTER ROLL WRITING. KARMA IS THAT YOU ARE NOT EQUAL BEFORE THE LAW AND NOT OTHERWISE. SC MAY PASS ANY ORDER IN THOSE SIX CASES AS WHAT WENT WRONG WE DO NOT KNOW; BUT THE ORGANISATION HAS CASE TO DEFEND IS ALSO VITAL TO CONSIDER. COMPARISON IS WITHIN THE COMPARABLE ONLY. K RAJARAM IRS 5825

On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 at 09:30, Colinjivadi Mahadevan <chmah...@gmail.com> wrote:

Discrimination can exist  between different organizations.But when exists within the same organization, there is definitely lack of equity and fairness which constitutes  violation of Articles 14 and 21 of the Indian Constitution. In a public sector organization governed  by rules and regulations the concept of Karma cannot justify unconstitutional  disparities.In case of LIC pensioners  6  Civil Appeals are pending before  the Supreme Court and the final verdict from the Hon’ble Apex Court will determine the Karma of 5he affected  LIC pensioners.

C H Mahadevan