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Samuel Webb

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Dec 2, 2016, 4:03:13 PM12/2/16
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Dear Friend,

Here is a new post of mine (http://samwebb.org/), which. no surprise i highly recommend. It's a bit of a different take on what happened and the challenges ahead. Have a good weekend. Sam

John Case

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Dec 2, 2016, 5:15:24 PM12/2/16
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Not an ounce of data this. I would call it analysis, if I had the slightest idea what it meant, other than a call to further "strategic" studies and inaction. It shuns economics. It abandons class as a relationship to economics. It shuns the F word. It shuns Marxism, which is OK by me since that ism is no less confused than the half-baked liberal speculation offered in its place. Good liberalism is at least evidence and data based. Lecturing the "white working class" -- IMO, a fraudulent, racist concept from the git -- on their sins is a meaningless and futile tactic. Maybe that's not what Sam is saying. Maybe I need to go back to school to understand.

But until then..

This leads nowhere. AND -- it is NOT serious. Not a moment of self criticism: which every critic on the left, at least, to should include at the outset.

We have to do better

Terrie Albano

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Dec 3, 2016, 2:41:18 PM12/3/16
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Dear John, please take me off the socialist-Econ list and blogger socialist. 

 It seems to me that especially in this time when "nasty" is the pinnacle of politics, another way of responding is in order. I always think of George Meyers' words- to disagree without being disagreeable.

I told my sobbing daughter who said through her tears that she was so afraid for the future and asked, what can we do, the only thing I really could think of that made sense: we have to weave the bonds of community stronger and broader, love more and dig deep for the courage to do and stand up for what is right.

I hope to live up to those words. Appreciate your attention to my request. Thanks, Terrie

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John Case

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Dec 3, 2016, 2:48:52 PM12/3/16
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On Dec 3, 2016 11:41 AM, "Terrie Albano" <tal...@peoplesworld.org> wrote:
Dear John, please take me off the socialist-Econ list and blogger socialist. 

 It seems to me that especially in this time when "nasty" is the pinnacle of politics, another way of responding is in order. I always think of George Meyers' words- to disagree without being disagreeable.

I told my sobbing daughter who said through her tears that she was so afraid for the future and asked, what can we do, the only thing I really could think of that made sense: we have to weave the bonds of community stronger and broader, love more and dig deep for the courage to do and stand up for what is right.

I hope to live up to those words. Appreciate your attention to my request. Thanks, Terrie

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 2, 2016, at 4:15 PM, John Case <jcas...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not an ounce of data this. I would call it analysis, if I had the slightest idea what it meant, other than a call to further "strategic" studies and inaction. It shuns economics. It abandons class as a relationship to economics. It shuns the F word. It shuns Marxism, which is OK by me since that ism is no less confused than the half-baked liberal speculation offered in its place. Good liberalism is at least evidence and data based. Lecturing the "white working class" -- IMO, a fraudulent, racist concept from the git -- on their sins is a meaningless and futile tactic. Maybe that's not what Sam is saying. Maybe I need to go back to school to understand.

But until then..

This leads nowhere. AND -- it is NOT serious. Not a moment of self criticism: which every critic on the left, at least, to should include at the outset.

We have to do better

On Dec 2, 2016 1:03 PM, "Samuel Webb" <sweb...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> Dear Friend,
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> Here is a new post of mine (http://samwebb.org/), which. no surprise i highly recommend. It's a bit of a different take on what happened and the challenges ahead. Have a good weekend. Sam

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