Mac OS Ventura - supported Macs

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Paul R Owen

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Jun 10, 2022, 4:33:39 AM6/10/22
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This page gives all the supported devices for the upcoming Venture and iOS, 16 etc. I just about scrape by with all my devices, even my iPhone X which is a nice surprise. In general it appears any Mac built before 2017 will not be compatible.

The list is different to which Macs supported Monterey, so don’t think because you’re running Monterey you can necessarily run Ventura.

https://tidbits.com/2022/06/09/real-system-requirements-apple-2022/

Paul Owen

mac98aop

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Jun 16, 2022, 6:06:38 AM6/16/22
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Thanks, Paul. That's helpful. Don't think I'll risk upgrading my iMac as whilst it's just about young enough it has a Fusion Drive and it's struggled of late which is a shame. One day I think I'll make an external SSD the boot disk. Oh, to make time to find time for such fun!

I think WWDC22 has been encouraging and certainly the software updates look really good and Mac hardware also back on track.

If only I had bought those shares back in 1997 ;)

But looking forward to hitting 'update' in the not too distant future at least!

Jason Davies

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Jun 16, 2022, 6:50:56 AM6/16/22
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I've had decent results from starting older macs from SSDs even with USB 2 so it's worth a try as with USB 3 or 4/thunderbolt it ought to be okay.

As for shares, I remember wondering about buyng a few (have never bought shares) in about 1997, when they were $11 IIRC!

I've pretty much settled into only upgrading a macOS once or twice, then putting it off. The performance hit is too great even when they are supported officially. And I've learned to buy more RAM than I imagined I could ever need, as even with swap to SSD you notice the difference.

cheers,
Jason

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Cheers,

Jason

Martin Bruton

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Jun 16, 2022, 11:38:47 AM6/16/22
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For what it’s worth, I downloaded Mac OS (not the latest Big Sur unfortunately) to a 1tb ssd for my 2012 with  3tb fusion drive.  If I can do it anyone can! I boot off of the ssd and it works perfectly. Easy to do and worth doing  
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Jason Davies

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Jun 16, 2022, 1:43:06 PM6/16/22
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I did a test run on my M1 Mac mini (I get nervous when I don't have a spare boot disk) and it sort of worked but there was a massive performance hit (I think there were websites saying you couldn't actually do it, so maybe I got lucky).

What I've done is set up the SSD as the full boot disk then sync via Superduper to the internal drive so if something goes wrong, it will start up just as you left it at the last backup.

I think 'start up from an SSD' is going to be one of those things that is great for a few years then becomes obsolete.

Anyone remember RAM disks from OS 9?;) They were great for extending battery life (up to 6 hours!).

cheers,
J

Cheers,

Jason

mac98aop

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Jun 17, 2022, 4:39:51 AM6/17/22
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Ha! I was looking at them in 1997! My now 15yr old son has since crunched the numbers on what he thinks they'd now be worth! 

He's not pleased!

I've assured him there's much more to life.... ;)

mac98aop

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Jun 17, 2022, 4:41:11 AM6/17/22
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Thanks, Martin, perhaps that's the encouragement I require.
I presume you've also copied your Home folder (all your apps, photos, docs etc) to the SSD too? Or does it just boot from there and get the docs from the Fusion?
I'm still a bit nervous but interested in Monterey, so tempted as a summer project!

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