A conjecture in A027423 is stated as a fact in A068499

42 views
Skip to first unread message

Sela Fried

unread,
Oct 22, 2025, 4:19:04 AMOct 22
to seq...@googlegroups.com
In the comments to A027423 it reads:
It appears that a(n+1)=2*a(n) if n is in A068499. - Benoit Cloitre, Sep 07 2002

but in the comments to A068499 (authored by Cloitre) it reads:
Also n such that tau((n+1)!) = 2* tau(n!)

which is exactly the conjecture...

so, is it a conjecture or a fact?
 

Neil Sloane

unread,
Oct 22, 2025, 11:19:29 AMOct 22
to seq...@googlegroups.com
I will forward that to Benoit Cloitre (I don't know if he is a member of this list or not)

Best regards
Neil 

Neil J. A. Sloane, Chairman, OEIS Foundation.
Also Visiting Scientist, Math. Dept., Rutgers University, 



--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SeqFan" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to seqfan+un...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/seqfan/CANfUr26jJsqM-VPm-5jPhq2n39Hx0fbM72BtLUFJOHFE8UafAw%40mail.gmail.com.

Jonas Karlsson

unread,
Oct 22, 2025, 11:26:21 AMOct 22
to SeqFan
Apart from small values, the only way m+1 can fail to divide m! is if m+1 is prime, which causes tau((m+1)!) = tau(m!)*tau(m+1) = 2*tau(m!). So the observation is correct.

J

Neil Sloane

unread,
Oct 22, 2025, 11:39:20 AMOct 22
to seq...@googlegroups.com
Jonas,  That's great.  Can you make the appropriate corrections to thos two sequences?

Best regards
Neil 

Neil J. A. Sloane, Chairman, OEIS Foundation.
Also Visiting Scientist, Math. Dept., Rutgers University, 


Jonas Karlsson

unread,
Oct 22, 2025, 11:41:26 AMOct 22
to seq...@googlegroups.com

jp allouche math

unread,
Oct 22, 2025, 12:10:55 PMOct 22
to seq...@googlegroups.com
By the way, if one does not see immediately why "Apart from small values... if m+1 is prime", one can
look at Wikipedia under "Wilson's theorem". Look for the setnce that begins with "In fact, more is true"

best
jean-paul

Neil Sloane

unread,
Oct 23, 2025, 9:16:00 AMOct 23
to SeqFan
I forwarded the first message to Benoit Cloitre (benoi...@yahoo.fr).   He tells me he is going to join the SeqFan list after he changes his email address.  He asked me to post two messages on his behalf.  Here they are.

#1



Benoit Cloitre

Oct 22, 2025, 6:21 PM (14 hours ago)




to me

Dear Neil,

Thank you for writing. I will consider Seqfan subscription!

I would like to clarify the current state of comments in OEIS regarding sequences A068499 and A027423, and explain the complete mathematical result I have now proved.

CURRENT STATE OF MY OEIS COMMENTS:

For A068499 (numbers m such that m! is not divisible by m+1): The comment states "Also n such that tau((n+1)!) = 2* tau(n!)" (which is not mine I think). This phrasing is ambiguous: it reads like a complete characterization ("all n such that..."), but it could mean only one direction (if n is in this sequence, then tau((n+1)!) = 2tau(n!)), which would have been clearer if written as "Also, if n is in this sequence then tau((n+1)!) = 2tau(n!)".

For A027423 (number of divisors of n!): My 2002 comment states "It appears that a(n+1) = 2*a(n) if n is in A068499." This explicitly conjectures only one direction (sufficiency).

MY COMPLETE RESULT (2025):

I have now proved the full equivalence (if and only if): tau((n+1)!) = 2tau(n!) if and only if n is in A068499, equivalently: tau((n+1)!) = 2tau(n!) if and only if n = 3 or n+1 is prime.

THE TWO DIRECTIONS:

  1. Sufficiency: If n is in A068499, then tau((n+1)!) = 2*tau(n!). This direction is easy: Wilson's theorem tells us that n in A068499 means n+1 is prime or n=3, and the result follows from multiplicativity of tau (for primes) or direct computation (for n=3).
  2. Necessity: If tau((n+1)!) = 2*tau(n!), then n is in A068499. This is the nontrivial direction.

THE NONTRIVIAL PART (necessity):

Wilson's theorem gives a dichotomy: either (n+1) does not divide n! (Case 1: n+1 prime or n=3, which gives the desired conclusion), or (n+1) divides n! (Case 2: n+1 composite and n+1 not equal to 4, which must be ruled out).

In Case 2, one must prove that the equation tau((n+1)!) = 2*tau(n!) cannot hold. The proof uses Legendre's formula for prime valuations in factorials and an asymptotic argument (splitting by largest prime factor) showing the product is strictly less than 2 for all composite n+1 not equal to 4.

This completes my 2002 conjecture into a full theorem (if and only if) and clarifies the ambiguous comment on A068499.

I have written a complete proof in a short note that I can provide.

Best regards,
Benoit


#2 


Benoit Cloitre

Attachments2:19 AM (6 hours ago)




to me
Hi Neil,

I’m not on seqfans yet, since I plan to change my OEIS email soon
Here a note with the proof.
You’re welcome to share the contents of my previous email and the note on seqfan.

Best regards,
Benoit

#3  What Benoit sent me is a pdf file.  I will try to attach it here
Cloitre.Oct.22.2025.pdf

Jonas Karlsson

unread,
Oct 23, 2025, 10:37:41 AMOct 23
to seq...@googlegroups.com
Great! I submitted two comments, one of which claimed the converse. I did in fact go through the reasoning that Benoit wrote up but my comment is rather terse. Anyone feel free to delete it - or I suppose the pdf with the proof could be added? 

J

Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages