PBP packing list

[Roberts, Mark]

I’m always interested to see how people pack for a bike ride.  I pulled my things together over the weekend, and here is a list of what I am bringing.

 

Maybe I can trim this down a bit before I leave?

 

I am riding unsupported/without using a drop bag, but do plan on the benefit of 2 sleep stops en route.

 

Good luck to everyone.

 

 

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[Josh Morse]

Mark thanks for sharing your list. As a first timer to PBP and international flights with all this stuff it is super helpful to see these details. Any advice or caution about packing the batteries, battery powered lights and lubes or tools? All in checked bags or in carry-ons or with bike? What’s best for working with the airlines?

Thanks,

Josh

[Ron Himschoot]

 

And here is a mostly complete list of what I’ll bring with me.  Most of it is stuff I always bring with me on a brevet.  I think I see now why my bike weighs so much.  Like Mark, I also plan on making two short sleep stops and no drop bag.

 

-Ron Himschoot

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[Roberts, Mark]

Josh --

Co2 cartridges are no longer permitted on airplanes, but some of us haven't had any problems as long as they are not hidden.

With regard to packing tools, I try to keep these together and I have a small bag that I use to for tools and related items that I put in my bike bag (It also helps with organization at the destination). There are lots of options and I will find you a link.

I put a small bottle of lube(not aerosol, though) and grease in a new baggie that I know has no holes in it and wrap it in a rag so it doesn't get pierced and put that in the bag, too. I 've never had a problem with the TSA have a problem with a small bottle oil like that.

Batteries are different.

If you have lights with rechargeable batteries, they should not be a problem whether in your carry-on or in your checked luggage/bike bag. If you are bringing a lot of lights, I might split them up.

If you are bringing spare, separate batteries e.g., AA or AAA lithium batteries for a taillight or spare headlight, I suggest you bring them in your carry-on. I also bringing my rechargeable battery in my carry on bag.

Here is the TSA page link: https://www.faa.gov/hazmat/packsafe/more_info/?hazmat=7

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Mark thanks for sharing your list. As a first timer to PBP and international flights with all this stuff it is super helpful to see these details. Any advice or caution about packing the batteries, battery powered lights and lubes or tools? All in checked bags or in carry-ons or with bike? What’s best for working with the airlines?

Thanks,

Josh

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[Paul Johnson]

Not to hijack the discussion but here  is something else/more to consider:

My wife and I were out riding in the country yesterday.  We arrived at the top of Garrard creek (yes a road named ‘creek’ with a real climb).  We stopped to breath and then descended at speed.  The record indicates she reached about 34mph, that may not seem scary fast but, on rough ‘cheese grater’ chip seal it could produce serious pain if one were to fall.  She got to the bottom and started to climb when something happened that I at first  cold not make sense of (I was following some distance behind her).  She dropped something and came to a wobbly sort-of-standing stop.

 

She had dropped her saddle.  Her seat post is a two bold setback post and the top portion of the clamshell clamp had cracked, letting go of the seat.  Once I arrived and assessed the situation I recognized what a good bit of fortune that this did not occur less than a minute early when she was really flying and that she was not skewered by the seat post.  Relief flooded my brain, and then shortly after, the situation became clear:  we were 10 miles out in the woods and how was I going to MacGyver this?!

 

I usually carry a few small bits in my tool kit.  Always a cleat bolt or two, often a bottle cage bolt, and usually several valve stem nuts.  Why?  Because these things have come in handy at one time or another. (my spare cleat bolt saved me on PBP in 2007).

 

I could not see how any of this would help and gave up more than once in the process of riddling the situation.  As it turned out, that valve stem nut treaded on to the protruding front bolt of clamp, and was just wide enough to span the slot on the adjustable clamshell.  There was not a lot of excess bolt thread, but enough that I could get the nut all the way threaded on.   Of course the saddle was at a rather cockeyed angle, but it was rideable.  Sheila did ride with considerably less pressure on the saddle, especially over rough spots in the road.

 

The here message is, you will probably never need these pars, but if you choose to carry them along they take up almost no space and weigh less than an espresso gel shot.

 

Another emergency device I always carry is a FiberFix Emergency Spoke Repair kit. This little device saved my ride on the Gold Rush Randonnee, another 1200K event  I rode years ago.  Ask Duane Wright about that sometime.

 

Have  a great ride, I really wish I was going with you!

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[Bill Gobie]

A Fiber Fix spoke is an excellent idea. Be sure to practice with it – you might discover your wheel is not compatible.

TSA has stolen my chain lube out of my checked bike bag, which was screwed tight shut and packed in a plastic bag. They had to rifle through an on-bike bag to get to it. So I would pack anything TSA would potentially steal in an easily accessible plastic bag that they can get to without messing up your packed bike.

Common advice is to carry your saddle, pedals, and shoes in your carry-on so if your bike fails to arrive, you can install those personally-important parts on a replacement bike. The problem however is that much metal in your carry-on can send TSA into a tizzy, trying to figure out if your saddle's Ti rails are weapons, or if the metal bits in your shoes are a threat. These days it is probably wiser to put those things in your checked luggage, and not risk having them confiscated.

Bill

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[Mark Thomas]

In case CO2 is important to you - 

CO2 cartridges are in a grey area - see https://www.faa.gov/hazmat/packsafe/more_info/?hazmat=9 vs https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/co2-cartridge vs https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/co2-cartridge-life-vest (comparable cartridges). 

When I carry these, I pack 4 in a ziplock bag with a copy of the above FAA PackSafe article wrapped around them. And I put them in an easily accessible outside pocket of a bike case. So far so good. 

I don’t normally try to bring them home from a foreign country, having twice been called out in it. Exception for Australia where you can get a permission slip. 

As I recall, CO2 is available at Decathlon in SQY, one train stop from Rambouillet. 

Mark

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[Roberts, Mark]

I actually do what Mark does, also, including the article, but limit myself to 2 cartridges. I have never had an issue, but maybe I have been fortunate. 

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[Roberts, Mark]

Following up on my email to Josh, here are a couple of sources for some good bags to pack your tools and other bits in your bike bag in order to keep things organized and protected that are a lot  sturdier than a regular zip lock bag - of course, I’m sure you can also find other suppliers:  Inside Line Equipment  https://ilequipment.com/; North St. Bags. https://northstbags.com/


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[Amy Harman]

If you have 2 pairs of very similar shoes make sure you bring the matched pair.  My Spain trip a few years ago brought one from spin class spd and one from winter riding oversized and speed play - luckily had brought extra cleats at least they were left and right if not the same size.

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I’m always interested to see how people pack for a bike ride.  I pulled my things together over the weekend, and here is a list of what I am bringing.

 

Maybe I can trim this down a bit before I leave?

 

I am riding unsupported/without using a drop bag, but do plan on the benefit of 2 sleep stops en route.

 

Good luck to everyone.

 

 

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[Chris Heg]

I tend to carry a lot of gear and this time I am not using a drop bag so it is more than usual.

On the bike

Topeak Road Morph pump

2 taillights

Generator headlight

Front rack

Rear rack

Bento box for ready food

Fenders

2 waterbottles

Pannier

              LS wool jersey

              Light synthetic jersey

              Light wool base layer

              Spare shorts

              Spare socks

              Rain jacket

              Rain booties

              Long finger gloves

              Headband

              Arm warmers

              Leg warmers

 

Handlebar bag 

              Cellphone

              Cellphone charging battery

              Spare GPS

              Camera

              Spare cam bats

              GPS cable

              Phone cable

              Sunscreen

              Spare tire

              2 tubes

              Tire lever

              Gu gel packets

              Cue sheet holder

              Brevet card

              Wallet

              Bike glasses clear and orange lenses

              Reflective Vest

 

Seatpack

Spare front light

Spare taillight batteries

Med kit

Surgical Gloves

Advil

Toilet Paper

Imodium

Tums

Space blanket

Ouch pouch

Chamois cream

Cleaning wipes

 

Toolkit

Multi tool

Tire levers

Tire boot

Patch kit

Spare cables

Chain link

Cleat screws

Duct tape

Chain oil

Fiber spoke

Surgical gloves

Needle nose pliers

Spoke wrench

Chain tool

Zip ties

Small Coupler wrench

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