Proposal for iminuit to join the scikit-hep project

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hans.de...@gmail.com

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Aug 13, 2018, 4:54:45 AM8/13/18
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Hello everyone,

I just joined the forum to tentatively propose that iminuit https://github.com/iminuit/iminuit joins the Scikit-HEP super-project. I still need to speak to the members of the iminuit organisation, which may have a different opinion, but I think that iminuit would gain from joining Scikit-HEP. Please let me know whether you are open to such a move.

A bit about me and about iminuit:
I am not the creator of iminuit, but I effectively became the leading maintainer of the iminuit project. iminuit is the standard Python wrapper for MINUIT when you don't use ROOT. We just recently produced release 1.3 after development was silent for about two years, which fixed bugs and added nice new features to iminuit, in particular better numpy support.

Why joining is a good idea:
iminuit is already well-known and has its own community, but it would gain from even more visibility. It is a good product and deserves more users. The community is also good for me as a developer. I want to discuss with other skilled developers about future directions that iminuit could take. I think that iminuit could gain in this regard from joining the Scikit-HEP project. Topic-wise it certainly fits very well and the synergy of joining communities is obvious.

Best regards,
Hans

Jim Pivarski

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Aug 13, 2018, 6:41:23 AM8/13/18
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+1 from me, pending the iminuit authors' agreement.

(iminiut is a modernization of the PyMinuit that I wrote to run a fit for my thesis. They did a good job with connecting it with the modern Python stack, and there's an all-purpose fitter, probfit, based on it that would be a good thing to host as well.)

Jim


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Eduardo Rodrigues

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Aug 13, 2018, 6:56:20 PM8/13/18
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Hi, cc the Scikit-HEP admins for completeness,

 

I’ve been discussing with Hans already, and encouraged him to get in touch, so am obviously all for this move.

 

Thanks,

Eduardo

 

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Hans Dembinski

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Aug 14, 2018, 11:14:58 AM8/14/18
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Dear Jim,

> On 13. Aug 2018, at 12:41, Jim Pivarski <jpiv...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> +1 from me, pending the iminuit authors' agreement.
>
> (iminiut is a modernization of the PyMinuit that I wrote to run a fit for my thesis. They did a good job with connecting it with the modern Python stack, and there's an all-purpose fitter, probfit, based on it that would be a good thing to host as well.)

thank you for your support! You are obviously one of the developers I would like to talk more to.

Good point about including probfit as well. I forgot to mention it, but that makes a lot of sense as well.

Best regards,
Hans

Eduardo Rodrigues

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Aug 22, 2018, 8:00:39 AM8/22/18
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Hi Hans, all,

 

Excellent news! Glad it worked out and you got the OK so fast.

All you propose seems logical and good but let’s discuss technical points in the admins list.

 

Thanks,

Eduardo

 

| Eduardo Rodrigues | University of Cincinnati | LHCb Experiment @ CERN & DIANA/HEP | Tel. +41 (0) 22 76 72097 |

 

From: Hans Dembinski
Sent: 21 August 2018 10:39
To: Eduardo Rodrigues
Cc: Jim Pivarski; Scikit-HEP forum; Scikit-HEP administrators
Subject: Re: Proposal for iminuit to join the scikit-hep project

 

Dear all,

 

good news, the creator of iminuit, Piti Ongmongkolkul, and the other active owners of the iminuit organisation are in favour of moving iminuit to Scikit-HEP. Therefore we can go forward.

 

We should discuss next steps of how to do the integration in practice.

 

I propose that

- the iminuit (and the probfit) repositories are moved to the Scikit-HEP organisation

- iminuit mailiing list is moved to the scikit-hep-forum (both seem to be low-traffic mailing lists, bundling may increase the traffic and help building a community)

- iminuit docs on readthedocs.org remain as is for now, but are linked from the scikit-hep webpage

 

I have blessings for moving the repositories to scikit-hep, but we need to keep ownership intact. The iminuit organisation has four owners: myself, Christoph Deil, Piti Ongmongkolkul, and Chih-hsiang Cheng. These people should retain ownership for the iminuit and probfit repos.

 

Is there anything else that I didn't think of?

 

Best regards,

Hans

 

Hans Dembinski

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Aug 24, 2018, 4:37:03 AM8/24/18
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Dear all,

good news, the creator of iminuit, Piti Ongmongkolkul, and the other active owners of the iminuit organisation are in favour of moving iminuit to Scikit-HEP. Therefore we can go forward.

We should discuss next steps of how to do the integration in practice.

I propose that
- the iminuit (and the probfit) repositories are moved to the Scikit-HEP organisation
- iminuit mailiing list is moved to the scikit-hep-forum (both seem to be low-traffic mailing lists, bundling may increase the traffic and help building a community)
- iminuit docs on readthedocs.org remain as is for now, but are linked from the scikit-hep webpage

I have blessings for moving the repositories to scikit-hep, but we need to keep ownership intact. The iminuit organisation has four owners: myself, Christoph Deil, Piti Ongmongkolkul, and Chih-hsiang Cheng. These people should retain ownership for the iminuit and probfit repos.

Is there anything else that I didn't think of?

Best regards,
Hans

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