Fwd: Minutes of the stakeholder consultation on 27.11.2024 as per the Supreme Court directives in the Shri Rajiv Raturi Vs Union of India WP(C) 243/2005) case regarding accessibility standards and compliance under rule 15 of the RPD Rules, 2017-reg.

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Vaishnavi Jayakumar

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Dec 31, 2024, 8:41:31 AM12/31/24
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While the DEPwD gets this fixed, thought it best to share the unoffical OCR'ed version myself before 2024 ends. Some inputs seem to be missing though or perhaps I wasn't concentrating. You could refresh your memory with the recording provided by DEPwD.

We have 38 days left on the Supreme Court countdown clock and had better get a move on!

(Bcc'ing the 6 working groups as well.)


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From: Vaishnavi Jayakumar <jayakumar...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec, 2024, 17:50
Subject: Re: Minutes of the stakeholder consultation on 27.11.2024 as per the Supreme Court directives in the Shri Rajiv Raturi Vs Union of India WP(C) 243/2005) case regarding accessibility standards and compliance under rule 15 of the RPD Rules, 2017-reg.
To: AIC SIPDA Section <aic-...@gov.in>
Cc: manmeetnanda <manmee...@ias.nic.in>, Amita Dhanda <amita...@gmail.com>, Amar Jain <amar...@amarjain.com>, A. NARAYANAN <asnaray...@gmail.com>


Please resend with OCR document or original soft copy text. This is not text currently - it's an image and therefore not accessible to blind using screen readers.



If DEPWD can run its email attachments through this before sending,  it will ensure basic screenreader access.

I think Amar Jain had oriented team on web and social media accessibility which they are now doing, but somehow have lapsed with emails. 

Simple solution to check if document is accessible to machine translation or screen reading software : try selecting the text. If something gets selected, even if not aligned to text, it has already been OCR'ed.

(Optical Character Recognition = OCR. Not a perfect solution, but will do for now.)


On Tue, 31 Dec, 2024, 17:19 AIC SIPDA Section, <aic-...@gov.in> wrote:

Ma'am/Sir

 

Please find the attached document in respect to the above mentioned subject.



Thanks and Regards,

AIC/SIPDA Section
Department of Empowerment of Persons with Disabilities (Divyangjan)
Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment
Government of India


ocr-Minutes of the stakeholder consultation on 27.11.2024-compressed.pdf

Dr.Sandeep Mishra

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Dec 31, 2024, 9:27:59 AM12/31/24
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I want to share my concern about the railways accessibility
1.it will be great if the coaches for PWD be in between.because currently it is at the end of the train which leads to non-availability of proper height of plateform as well as it becomes difficult to reach at the end as the indicator used to be last which becomes difficult to see the location for partially blind .
2.proper security personnel should be available nearby to coach as many of the incident for harrassment can be found which is non reported as well as those coaches are occupied by non pwd personal.no grievance can be recorded.
3.the responsible person for accessibility should be made as per laws to implement.
4.approchable feedback mechanism should be there like it is happening for cleanliness of the coaches.
4.their should be panic button in case of harrassment of pwd in coaches demarketed for PWD.
5.penalisation should be there if someone is found to travelling in coach of pwd like without ticket rules.
Thank you
Dr Sandeep Mishra


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Arushi Singh

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Dec 31, 2024, 10:16:31 AM12/31/24
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Thank you, Dr. Mishra.

I want to elaborate on point 1 of your inputs. I believe there is a system currently, where a person has to get a railway concession certificate against their disability certificate/UDID to avail benefits of the railways. However, this does not always guarantee availability of accessible seats for Persons with disabilities. To that extent, it would be great if:

1) IRCTC can incorporate a box on its website for disability and the kind of accommodation that would be required. For example - wheelchair till platform/seat, like the airplanes.
2) Accessible seats should be available in each class of the trains and must be made available against such reservations.
3) 3-4 small aisle wheelchairs must be made available on trains, especially on the long haul journeys. 
4) Accessible washrooms at least in coaches having accessible seats must be made available
5) That should also make room on the aisle for the movement of these aisle wheelchairs.

Thanks.

kiran gan

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Dec 31, 2024, 12:16:19 PM12/31/24
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As far as my knowledge goes it is ecnomicaly not viable to raise the platform in the the enterity but at the same time the specific bogy can be stationed at a specific place where the platform is raised to facilitate the moviment of the wheel users whithout any problem.


Vaishnavi Jayakumar

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Feb 17, 2025, 10:55:50 AM2/17/25
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@Dr.Sandeep Mishra  could you elaborate point 1 on location in rake of the SLRD unreserved compartment for disabled. Did you mean that the compartment is beyond the platform at times? What indicator?

Some comments received :

[17/02, 20:58] Tushar Kansara: For mail express the disability coach is at ends 

If it is in middle then pantry staff and passengers will bypass the open ended coach frequently 



Dr.Sandeep Mishra

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Feb 17, 2025, 8:37:36 PM2/17/25
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Yes .in all express train the unreserved coach for PWD is used to be at the end where no security person can be available despite the railway staff is used to use that compartment and others as well .as well as it's happening in duranto as well where H1 Coach is used to be in end where the platform height is very less.it will be good if the railway will keep those coaches in between where help can be sought to reach at the coaches as well as complaint can be done if any untoward incidents happens

Dr.Sandeep Mishra

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Feb 17, 2025, 8:38:12 PM2/17/25
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I want to talk ,is there any no available where I can connect

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