o·pin·ion [uh-pin-yuhn]
–noun
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds *insufficient to produce
complete certainty*.
(my emphases)
> I think rails is the best framework out there. But I think all these
> frameworks do not solve any actual problems.
No? One problem they solve is to take the grind out of building web
apps - all the repetitive stuff that you need to do with every new
app. With that labour freed-up, the developer can now concentrate on
the specific domain problems.
> On the other hand nodejs actually created
> a new and revolutionary way to develop web applications easily. Almost
> like writing a simple script.
And what "problem" does that solve?
Are you suggesting that the Ruby code in Rails is not simple? Or that
in comparison, a developer can write more simple scripts in NodeJS
than they can in Ruby?
I'm struggling to see the rationale for you "opinion". I certainly
can't see any historical weight to your voice that would lend you any
credence, and as such, you're really sounding like a troll.
Your biggest flaw (which is common in these "my dad vs. your dad"
postures) is that you're not comparing apples to apples.
NodeJS is an event-driven server scripting environment, which Rails is
nothing of the kind. You might as well have said " I think all these
frameworks do not solve any actual problems. On the other hand a
crocodile has really big jaws." - It would have been more curious to
read :-/
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what kind of websites were you developing 16 years ago? where did you connect using a dial up modem? 56k?
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I think rails is the best framework out there. But I think all these
frameworks do not solve any actual problems. They just abstract
problems to simpler forms.
Hassan: Citation?
How about DHH himself?: “The reason you shouldn’t use Rails is that the community is full of experienced, senior developers who might have families and therefore are EXPENSIVE.” https://twitter.com/dhh/status/1034481397430251521
Don't get me wrong, Rails is a pleasure to work with...there are just a bunch of cheap, cost effective options that rails simply can't compete with (and that's OK). Take the Glitch.com link above, they give you a lot for free and people host microservices like forum bots there all the time (plus it's made by the StackOverflow team).
Joe: what kind of websites were you developing 16 years ago? where did you connect using a dial up modem? 56k?
I remember back when I switched to a faster dial-up number (my down was half a kilobit), but then the phone company charged me for long distance.
Stefan: And I have to say one thing: Nothing, and I mean NOTHING could separate me from the Ruby and Rails community EVER again.
I am right there with you, I have even convinced a few nodejs people to give rails a chance. But Jack’s original question included: “…web site requiring a CMS and a ‘blog and little to nothing in the way of custom tables?”. Let’s not kid ourselves, Rails is not the best tool for the uninitiated to make static sites. Hence why I linked Gatsby, Jekyll, Squarespace and Wordpress. If there was the need for custom DB work or if Jack didn't mind the learning curve, it would be Rails all the way.
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