Old felons, new Ronin?

[Paola Di Maio]

Just venting some hypotheses that are being shared privately, for discussion:

Ronin Institute was closed to cover up for unlawful behaviour and possibly misapppropriation of a quarter million USD from public funding

People responsible for fraudulent operation of RI may have gotten away with it, by exploiting legal loopholes, and may be  behind certain loopholes in the proposed bylaws, and behind the veil of silence covering what may be going on behind the scenes in relation to the new institute formation

The old domain name may be now controlled by the people responsible for closing the Institute, or their associates, who are not disclosing the facts

as to how the domain has come under their control

Scholars who may have knowledge of facts in relation to the above points are invited to share  and  discuss?

Thank you

PDM

[Ruth Duerr]

Discuss away Paola - but note that I for one am now beginning to understand why the last Board of the first Ronin Institute never ever responded to anybody’s questions.

FYI - at this point there isn’t a Ronin 2.0 yet.  We’ve gotten slowed down by simple things like the ongoing takeover of the US government by a dictator and his lickspittles; one of our members heart surgery; some last minute complications with starting up a new organization; and a host of other issues.  

If you’d like to be helpful you could help some of us save the climate data currently being hidden/destroyed by our government.  For some reason, that seems to be more on my mind these days, though getting Ronin going again still seems somewhat important.  I must admit though that even protesting what is happening over here is rising in importance to everyone I know!  I mean if you want to be paranoid about something; be paranoid about the factor that there is a madman at the helm of the largest nuclear weapons concentration in the world and he seems bent on destroying the country he wants to be king of.  Does that make sense?  No. it doesn’t; but that is the reality over here.

Ruth

PS: I will probably regret writing this in the morning; but I am so fed up and angry about what is going on over here and how little I can do about it, that I just have to vent.

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[Paola Di Maio]

Thanks for responding Ruth, I dont think there is any demand/expectation from you alone to

move on the plan for new Ronin,  

I am not sure why you say that you know the reason why the outgoing board did not answer questions- perhaps you d like to say it?

Why is information that concerns all scholars not being shared?

There is no reason why scholars cannot continue the company registration process while you are busy elsewhere except

that maybe some have dropped out/become alienated. Some vented privately frustration over to lack of clarity and some unanswered questions

Personally I am happy to contribute but the lack of clarity on important issues things like domain name remains a concern

For example, it is not clear why the bylaws have been frozen if there is no deadline for the company registration yet

*other than you being busy with other work, there is no reason why others cannot continue to work on it

The US is not the only place with ongoing political crises, there is a big world out here with genocides , entire regiones flattened by quakes humans being

torn to pieces including women and children and people dying of all sorts of political reasons in many parts of the world

I sympathize with your other work of saving data. and maybe you can share more about that and how can scholars help these projects

*I won't be able to help because I have got hands full but I look forward to hear about it maybe others can join you

In the meantime, if someone could break the silence over the domain name *who owns it and how was the transfer of ownerhsip obtained, we could all be relieved

and move on to the next point in our shared R2 agenda

PDM

[Regina M]

Paola, in an opinion I have shared many times, I agree with your overall assessment of why Ronin was closed.

Further, estimates are that closer to over million dollars disappeared, also throughly discussed with numbers and documents, multiple times on older threads

It wasn't a case of exploiting legal loopholes it was simply sloppy accounting. If we had retained an attorney the monies would easily have been traced.

People decided to not pursue keeping the original Ronin open by investigating the financial issues, so it was dropped.
Thus the old board was never held to accountability.

Then with much gnashing and effort, new bylaws were created by a small team who did a lot of work but produced something which some members are not happy with. Evidently those members are less important that the ones who wrote the bylaws so they are now dismissed

Details are now finally becoming important again - who owns the Web and Mail domains, for example. And those details seem to stop everything..

Meanwhile we are now supposed to be concerned with political opinions which do not serve the objectives of our organization. That's what a club is for, but evidently others disagree.

With this high level of confusion and disorganization - will I can only hope Ronin can find its way again.

Regina

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[Candace Gossen]

Its very depressing to read all of your comments all of these weeks and months.

Its very simple, the institute had some thieves, and the creators havent stepped up to say anything perhaps out of guilt. And the remaining people that care didnt call in legal to find out where a million dollars went, does not want to make one want to be part of any of this, whats left.  Feels mildly familiar to the nature of things overall on this olanet right now. Band aid or bury whats the answer.? Im all in for creating a new beginning, resurrection feels heavy and stuck.

Thank you from DaoQi Acupuncture &  Blackcoyote Medicine!

Candace Gossen, Ph.D., LAc.

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[alain tam]

Once we incorporate, we can look into assigning ownership of the domain name to the Ronin Institute.

-Allan

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[Arkadiusz Jadczyk]

You can't "assign" ownership to a domain who is owned by someone else. Someone owns the domain. Who is it? Could you be so kind and reveal it to us?

Ark

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[alain tam]

" As property, domain names can be owned by any legal entity" including corporations. (https://wireslaw.ca/2014/04/company-actually-domain-name/) 

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[Paola Di Maio]

Alain, Thank you!

What we are asking,  is that obviously someone is communicating with you

some information that is shared with some, and not others

This is creating a climate of behind the scenes operations, possibly iffy stuff is going on and that definitely contradict the values stated in

the bylaws

 Even if we are not incorporated yet, the principles in the bylaws are what are guiding our association - give or take

some loophole here and there

Who is giving you information Alain, about the domain name and why are you not sharing it with us?

the domain name has been transferred from Jon. the previous owner ... to whom? by what agreement? when?

by whom?   Some of us may be uncomfortable because people operating behind the scenes may be  following the same *leck of

ethos of those

who have operated unlawfully and misappropriated funds, and closed the institute so that they could not be held accountable

So, please share with everyone what you know, and maybe inform those who are sharing information with you behind the scenes

that the way they are doing things does not sound right

PDM

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[alain tam]

Efforts are being made to finalize the domain transfer from Jon.  Alex has been generously taking the lead in getting our domain name up and running. You can see that there is currently a place holder by visiting ronininstitute.org . Some administrative details can be seen at the whois.com website.

If you have strong feelings about how things are to be done at the institute, I suggest you get involved by volunteering, contributing financially and running for the board once we incorporate. Fortunately, the institute's bylaws are now member-centric to avoid the previous pitfalls.

-Allan

[Paola Di Maio]

Thank you Alain

it is great that efforts are being made, and that Alex is working towards restoring the site

as you previously mentioned on the list and for which we are grateful

The domain name was transferred from Jon on 2025-04-04 

it would simply be good to know that Jon donated it and temporarily transferred it to ....say, Alex who plans to

register in the new entity name,

You may recall that in previous emails I offered to contribute to the cost of the server and domain name registration

purely out of common sense

Who can I make a donation to , to this effect?

The joining fee should be based on the costing estimates, imho,

[alain tam]

Paola,
Thank you for offering to contribute to the cost of the server and domain name registration. The plan is to ultimately fund these and other expenses from the general membership dues.
-Allan
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[A.J. Lumsdaine]

My experience lends to that idea. Sorry, I’m very sidelined by health. 

When is new board vote? Isn’t it around now!

Anne

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