Almost FS: Riv Hubbuhubbuh (HHH) tandem, size small

[G.E.]

My husband and I bought a HHH (Hubbuhubbuh) tandem from Rivendell to try out our interest in riding a tandem. Neither of us had ridden one prior, but it seemed like it would be a good, stable option to try out this new-for-us way to ride. I was fairly certain that we probably wouldn't take to it, or at best would ride it infrequently, but as it turned out, we really enjoyed riding together this way. Shortly after purchasing the HHH, we knew that the bike was too big for us so we looked into having a custom tandem made. Our intention was to keep both and use them for different purposes, but the reality is that the HHH doesn't suit the style of riding we primarily do on the tandem and in truth it is too big for either of us to captain comfortably. I was hesitant to let go of the HHH because it took us awhile to get the custom tandem dialed in but now that we've been riding that one for a year and have found a comfortable place with it, we both have realized that the Hubbuh just isn't suited to our needs/height/leg length/etc. While it is super fun and easy to ride, it's getting difficult to store two tandems and it's time to look at letting this go. 

Although the HHH is not officially for sale as of yet (thus, no photos quite yet), we are preparing to put it up and wanted to place info here first so that anyone who may have interest can be on the look out or ask any questions they may have. Here are some details, and of course, feel free to ask any questions here or DM me.

- Size Small Hubbuhubbuh (it's the darker blue, kind of slate blue color, not sage or orange)

- 650b wheels (purchased from Rivendell as part of the tandem package)

- Schwalbe Marathon 650x42 tires (these will probably need to be replaced in the relatively near future, but they've sure been darn tough! Never had a flat - knock on wood). We put these narrower-than-intended tires on it due to height/standover issues, but it will take a much wider tire (I believe up to 60mm) for a normal-height person. For reference purposes, the captain is apprx. 5'3.75" with a 76 PBH (can JUST straddle the top tube - barely - in the captain position) and stoker is 5'1" with a 69 PBH (has no problems at all standing over rear top tube)

- One set of Albatross bars and one set of Bosco bars

-The drivetrain is set up as was recommended by Riv, and has 3x9 bar-ends; we did switch out the cog on the crank to a 50t (rather than the 46t that came on it) because we were spinning out often; however, we can include the 46t ring with the sale so the future owner will have the option to go back to the smaller ring, if needed/wanted. So, at the moment it's running 50-36-26 (or it may be a 24, I need to double check). The cassette is 11-32. 

- Cranks are both 170mm, purchased from Riv.

- Ours was set up so that the disc (intended to be used as the drag brake) is used as the rear brake and a v-brake is used in the front. This could be fairly easily changed out if the new owner desires, but this is the current set up and how it will be sold.

- The tandem will not be sold with any racks, bags, baskets, etc.   

- It will come with fenders, two bottle cages, double kickstand, pedals and saddles. The pedals and saddles are nothing to write home about... they are extras that we have, not Brooks or leather saddles, nor anything fancy in the pedal department... it will simply make it easier for the new owner to have something to ride the bike and not have to immediately purchase something.

- There is a scratch across the top tube in the captain position from the mirror on the handlebar running across it once when the bike was unsettled after stopping. The scratch has not gone through the primer, but is visible (I'd say it's about an inch long, running perpendicular to the direction of the top tube). Additionally, we only have one headbadge as the second was crushed in shipment (I believe these can still be ordered from Riv, but am not certain).

In short, we have thoroughly enjoyed this bike, but it's time for us to let it move on to someone who can utilize it. I've attached a photo from one of our rides over the winter, just to give some idea of what the bike looks like, but it will have some different parts than are pictured here (most of which have been indicated above). We haven't settled on a selling price, but I'm thinking it will be somewhere in the neighborhood of $2500. Shipping is going to be the biggest expense and P.I.T.A., but we'll get it figured out (likely in two boxes with wheels in one and the frame in another). I will do my best to get this posted with photos for anyone who has interest and will likely just add a reply in this post so as to not clutter up anyone's feed too much. :-)

[Jonathan D.]

Where is it located? Beautiful bike.

[Patrick Moore]

I don't need a tandem, but I was struck by the quality -- clarity and precision -- of your prose. Are you a professional writer of some sort? Just curious, is all.

I for my sins have been fated to write executive resumes (I can't complain; it pays well, lets me work at home, and I'm good at it) but I do read reams of incredibly bad* prose from highly paid executives, so prose that is clearer than the usual stands out.

* Not only prolix and vague, but very often lacking almost minimum intelligibility -- jargon with no context; one saleable skill I have is enough general business knowledge that I can "create content on the fly" and this, oddly, usually gains praise. (I don't lie, though.)

Segwaying, and not addressed to GEC in particular: good narration, especially traven narration, involves more than grammar and vocabulary; it involves a certain imagination, and thus a sufficiently formed world view. It is a lack of this that has made some bicycle travel writing that could have been very entertaining instead very dull.

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[G.E.]

The tandem is in Colorado. We've assumed it will likely need to be shipped as finding a local buyer is (probably) unlikely.

[G.E.]

Patrick,

I am a rambler (both in writing and sometimes in everyday life too). :-) I try to keep this bad habit in check, but it's not always possible. My grandmother was an English teacher and used to send me back the letters I'd sent to her with all of the punctuation and grammar corrections -- I still don't get many things right, even several decades later! ha ha  

I am not a professional writer; though, like you, I used to help others with their resumes (I was a recruiter and HR manager for several years). I still assist others on occasion even today, but it's generally just to help out a friend (or a friend of a friend). I do enjoy writing when I can and when I was in high school one of my dream occupations was to be a travel writer. My mother told me I didn't have enough life experience to write, so I wrote in journals and kept my thoughts for myself (sadly, I lost most of those journals many years ago). I do have the great privilege of being able to work as an artist today, which was also a life-long dream. I find a lot of connections between writing and creating forms (I work with clay and occasionally paint), even though these two areas don't necessarily seem similar on the surface. 

I am grateful that you saw clarity in my words because (as stated above) I tend to ramble and sometimes worry that my point isn't clear. Maybe grandma helped more than I believe! :-)

On Sunday, May 19, 2019 at 6:50:00 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

I don't need a tandem, but I was struck by the quality -- clarity and precision -- of your prose. Are you a professional writer of some sort? Just curious, is all.

I for my sins have been fated to write executive resumes (I can't complain; it pays well, lets me work at home, and I'm good at it) but I do read reams of incredibly bad* prose from highly paid executives, so prose that is clearer than the usual stands out.

* Not only prolix and vague, but very often lacking almost minimum intelligibility -- jargon with no context; one saleable skill I have is enough general business knowledge that I can "create content on the fly" and this, oddly, usually gains praise. (I don't lie, though.)

Segwaying, and not addressed to GEC in particular: good narration, especially traven narration, involves more than grammar and vocabulary; it involves a certain imagination, and thus a sufficiently formed world view. It is a lack of this that has made some bicycle travel writing that could have been very entertaining instead very dull.

On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 5:38 PM G.E. <endless...@gmail.com> wrote:

My husband and I bought a HHH (Hubbuhubbuh) tandem from Rivendell to try out our interest in riding a tandem. Neither of us had ridden one prior, but it seemed like it would be a good, stable option to try out this new-for-us way to ride. I was fairly certain that we probably wouldn't take to it, or at best would ride it infrequently, but as it turned out, we really enjoyed riding together this way. Shortly after purchasing the HHH, we knew that the bike was too big for us so we looked into having a custom tandem made. Our intention was to keep both and use them for different purposes, but the reality is that the HHH doesn't suit the style of riding we primarily do on the tandem and in truth it is too big for either of us to captain comfortably. I was hesitant to let go of the HHH because it took us awhile to get the custom tandem dialed in but now that we've been riding that one for a year and have found a comfortable place with it, we both have realized that the Hubbuh just isn't suited to our needs/height/leg length/etc. While it is super fun and easy to ride, it's getting difficult to store two tandems and it's time to look at letting this go. 

Although the HHH is not officially for sale as of yet (thus, no photos quite yet), we are preparing to put it up and wanted to place info here first so that anyone who may have interest can be on the look out or ask any questions they may have. Here are some details, and of course, feel free to ask any questions here or DM me.

- Size Small Hubbuhubbuh (it's the darker blue, kind of slate blue color, not sage or orange)

- 650b wheels (purchased from Rivendell as part of the tandem package)

- Schwalbe Marathon 650x42 tires (these will probably need to be replaced in the relatively near future, but they've sure been darn tough! Never had a flat - knock on wood). We put these narrower-than-intended tires on it due to height/standover issues, but it will take a much wider tire (I believe up to 60mm) for a normal-height person. For reference purposes, the captain is apprx. 5'3.75" with a 76 PBH (can JUST straddle the top tube - barely - in the captain position) and stoker is 5'1" with a 69 PBH (has no problems at all standing over rear top tube)

- One set of Albatross bars and one set of Bosco bars

-The drivetrain is set up as was recommended by Riv, and has 3x9 bar-ends; we did switch out the cog on the crank to a 50t (rather than the 46t that came on it) because we were spinning out often; however, we can include the 46t ring with the sale so the future owner will have the option to go back to the smaller ring, if needed/wanted. So, at the moment it's running 50-36-26 (or it may be a 24, I need to double check). The cassette is 11-32. 

- Cranks are both 170mm, purchased from Riv.

- Ours was set up so that the disc (intended to be used as the drag brake) is used as the rear brake and a v-brake is used in the front. This could be fairly easily changed out if the new owner desires, but this is the current set up and how it will be sold.

- The tandem will not be sold with any racks, bags, baskets, etc.   

- It will come with fenders, two bottle cages, double kickstand, pedals and saddles. The pedals and saddles are nothing to write home about... they are extras that we have, not Brooks or leather saddles, nor anything fancy in the pedal department... it will simply make it easier for the new owner to have something to ride the bike and not have to immediately purchase something.

- There is a scratch across the top tube in the captain position from the mirror on the handlebar running across it once when the bike was unsettled after stopping. The scratch has not gone through the primer, but is visible (I'd say it's about an inch long, running perpendicular to the direction of the top tube). Additionally, we only have one headbadge as the second was crushed in shipment (I believe these can still be ordered from Riv, but am not certain).

In short, we have thoroughly enjoyed this bike, but it's time for us to let it move on to someone who can utilize it. I've attached a photo from one of our rides over the winter, just to give some idea of what the bike looks like, but it will have some different parts than are pictured here (most of which have been indicated above). We haven't settled on a selling price, but I'm thinking it will be somewhere in the neighborhood of $2500. Shipping is going to be the biggest expense and P.I.T.A., but we'll get it figured out (likely in two boxes with wheels in one and the frame in another). I will do my best to get this posted with photos for anyone who has interest and will likely just add a reply in this post so as to not clutter up anyone's feed too much. :-)

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[Max S]

We have one and ride with spouse / kids – it's the one pastime everyone in the family enjoys equally well. Fantastic price for a rare tandem that is very easy to ride. It also has many neat details that you start to notice up-close and with prolonged use. Someone should jump on this.  

- Max (if only there was a folding / travel version of this...) 

[G.E.]

Max,

I'm glad to see we're not the only ones who find this to be a fun tandem. :-) I wish it fit us a bit better (the curse of being shorter people, unfortunately), though we understand that most duos would not both be under 5'4". 

Hope you continue to enjoy your HHH!

[G.E.]

Last night, we attempted to get as many photos taken of the HHH as it will be sold before our rain started (again), so I must apologize if they seem a bit haphazard, but hopefully, we were able to capture as many areas as possible to get a clear idea of this tandem. The photos can be found here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/54032207@N04/albums/72157708525351885

Additionally, I should point out that the fenders are not currently on the tandem. They are Velo Orange fenders (they are these) and my wonderful hubby was running short on time and wasn't able to put them on the bike prior to photos (plus, he figured that they'd likely need to come off again for shipping purposes, regardless). If anyone needs/wants a photo of them, I'm happy to get that, so just let me know. Otherwise, the bike is pictured as it will be sold.

Just one more note, I had stated that there is an approx. 1 in scratch across the top tube, but I also noticed some "hazing" from a couple of bags that have been placed on the bike. They are REALLY difficult to get a photo of, but you can get an idea in the one photo that has the red arrow pointing to a spot. There are actually two of these: one is just under the stoker handlebars from a bag we were using there and the other is in the triangle between the captain's seat tube and the bottom tube running back to the stoker area (again, there was a bag placed in this area). The paint is still good in these areas, but it may have rubbed some of the clear which has created the hazing.

Thanks again to all!

[Manuel Acosta]

Email sent 

[G.E.]

Thanks for your message, Manny, and my apologies for the delay in response (you should have it now, but let me know if you didn't receive it). 

[T.O.M. (The Other Manny)]

Email sent............

On Sunday, May 19, 2019 at 4:38:50 PM UTC-7, G.E. wrote:

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[G.E.]

Thank you to all who expressed interest in the HHH. It is now sold and on its way to its new home! :-)