WTB/WTT – Huret Jubilee Long Cage Rear Derailleur

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Luke Hendrickson

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Feb 11, 2023, 12:28:01 AM2/11/23
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Hey all!

I fly out to visit my folks a bunch and want to build up a bike to either fly with or stash there. Instead of starting with a frameset and building around that, I’d like to build it around a Huret Jubilee! Please pm me if you have one and wish to part with it/happen to be looking for something and want to see if I have it. 

Patrick Moore

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Feb 11, 2023, 10:51:16 AM2/11/23
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A bicycle built around a derailleur: that has to be a first. Why the Jubilee?

I built a bike around a hub, but the hub include the gears. I'll be very interested in the final result; please post build specs and photos.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 10:28 PM Luke Hendrickson <phendr...@paulpath.net> wrote:
Hey all!

I fly out to visit my folks a bunch and want to build up a bike to either fly with or stash there. Instead of starting with a frameset and building around that, I’d like to build it around a Huret Jubilee! Please pm me if you have one and wish to part with it/happen to be looking for something and want to see if I have it. 

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Luke Hendrickson

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Feb 11, 2023, 11:43:56 AM2/11/23
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C159AC94-2CA3-48AB-B25D-30D6A547736D.jpegI think that it’s positively beautiful and that it’d be fun to track down the corresponding Huret front derailleur and other period components. Here’s one from an eBay listing. What a stunner…

Richard Rose

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Feb 11, 2023, 7:07:42 PM2/11/23
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Hands down the most beautiful, jewelry like rear derailleur ever made, IMHO. I had a complete set on my PX10 around 1980. Lovely.

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RichS

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Feb 12, 2023, 12:51:27 PM2/12/23
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Hey Luke,

I like your idea but if you locate one of those gorgeous Jubilees you will have to compliment it with other jewel like components and a worthy frame.
Lots of luck in your quest!

Best,
Rich in ATL

Luke Hendrickson

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Feb 12, 2023, 1:06:59 PM2/12/23
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Ha! I know, I know. My “extra” bike is fast becoming quite the project bike for me…

Eric Marth

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Feb 12, 2023, 3:32:48 PM2/12/23
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Luke — I like the Jubilee. Or the look, at least, having never run one myself. 

What are you picturing for the rest of build? Are you going for a French Noodle (springy frame in the style of BQ?) 

Patrick Moore

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Feb 12, 2023, 4:20:40 PM2/12/23
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On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 10:51 AM RichS <rshann...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Luke, I like your idea but if you locate one of those gorgeous Jubilees you will have to compliment it with other jewel like components and a worthy frame.

On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 7:07:42 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
Hands down the most beautiful, jewelry like rear derailleur ever made, IMHO.

Picking up again on this thread: I do think that the Jubilee RD is an aesthetic jewel (and I read that it actually shifts pretty well). But let's take this idea further. What other components would all y'all choose to best complement a jewel-like Jubilee RD? Hubs, rims, cranks, pedals, brakes, levers, seatposts, stems, bars, saddles, racks, cages, luggage, bells, lights?

Stab #1. I tentatively suggest these for pretty as well as superlative performance.
Hubs: Phil. Accept no substitute. Amen. For dynamos, SON. Or perhaps a NOS Sturmey Archer Dynohub, all 4 lb of it. Oh, and a rechromed, 2022 1937 SA TC hub looks PDG too.
Rims: ? (I confess I choose by the best ratio of weight and strength, very informally determined, so I can't say which are prettiest.)
Cranks: Dura Ace 7410 followed closely by the DA GA 200 / 300. But really, though, the prettiest cranksets of all time bar none are some of the best cottered steel cranks: ethereally slender, with a shine only chrome can give. The lightest were lighther than some aluminum "cotterless" cranks.
Brakes: I use Paul's for practical reasons and the polished silvers are nice but I can't say that they're the prettiest.
Pedals: ?? I use XTRs and XTs and Dura Ace SPDs and M540s but these are not exactly pretty.
Levers: ? I like the Dura Ace BL 7401.
Seatpost: DA 7410.
Bar: Rene Herse polished Nitto.
Saddle: ?
Cages: The Nitto one is prettiest but I gave up after 2 broke on me and sought solace in the uglier but still presentable and far, far stronger (and much cheaper) King Iris.
Racks: I don't use them, but I'd have to say Nitto for looks. I use customs or Tubus for practical.
Luggage: Rivendell post-Cartwright, but no g-damned tweed.
Bells: ? Spurcycle? I use these, but they're not shiny.
Lights: Edeluxe.

Bad photo but best I could find of Duprat hollow-arm steel cottered crank:

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Luke Hendrickson

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Feb 12, 2023, 4:49:07 PM2/12/23
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Eric – French rando with or without fenders and perhaps 42mm tires or so. Downtube shifters with a Berthoud saddle or Brooks (I have an extra B17 after all). No dynamo but leaning towards Atlas or Pacenti rims with polished or frosted hubs (no need for anything horribly expensive here). Leather wrapped drops with Gran Compe brake levers however I’m unsure about the gearing, crankset, pedals, or front derailleur. I’m leaning towards a matching Huret but TBD. 

And this was meant to be a budget build for traveling purposes only, too. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Patrick – ha! You’ve helped muddy the waters some with a wonderful assortment of components. This group is the best/worst lol. Those Duprats are STUNNING. 

Ken Mattina

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Feb 12, 2023, 5:15:33 PM2/12/23
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Well since this is just a fun exercise, how about H plus Son rims? Either the archetype or TB14.

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Feb 12, 2023, 8:09:28 PM2/12/23
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Luke Hendrickson

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Feb 12, 2023, 10:44:05 PM2/12/23
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Tempted… For about $50 more, there’s a nearly NOS example on eBay I just found today.

Eric Marth

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Feb 13, 2023, 10:43:07 AM2/13/23
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Luke — That doesn't sound like a budget bike! Might you consider an early 90s Bridgestone RB-1, slap some new tires on it and call it a day?

I do love the idea of your build and the intended rims and components you mentioned. Certainly a worthwhile build I'd love to see realized. It's just gonna be costly! The Sachs-Huret front derailers are nice-looking. 

Can anyone share their experiences with the Jubilee? I've never run one, I'm curious how well they shift. What kind of cassette limitations do you encounter with one? 

Slacky Mac

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Feb 13, 2023, 11:01:28 AM2/13/23
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I have an early 90s RB-1 with 28s on it, and you can barely see the light of day between the rubber and the frame.  Anything much larger is a no-go without some chainstay mods and a switch to 650s on that frame.  That Jubilee sure is purty though!

Luke Hendrickson

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Feb 13, 2023, 11:16:24 AM2/13/23
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Ha! Very true, Eric. With my original intent in mind, I’m interested in getting a frame that can fit 28s at least and then throw a Jubilee and matching fd on it. The only other $$ would probably be on some René Herse Extralights (which I can get at cost). 

Eric Marth

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Feb 13, 2023, 11:37:42 AM2/13/23
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Luke, totally with you on a cushy rando rig with 42s and want to build one myself. I've enjoyed the Extralights on my Hillborne and MB-2, getting them at cost would be nice! My first set was old, worn in and I got em for free from a friend so much like drugs, they were free at first and now I'm addicted. 

How are you going to work around the dropout issue? I thought those were threaded either for Huret or Campagnolo dropouts? 

Luke Hendrickson

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Feb 13, 2023, 11:55:15 AM2/13/23
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That’s an issue I didn’t know that I would face with the Jubilee 🤦🏻‍♂️ Maybe the shop where I work could help with some sort of workaround or…?
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