Question for Nitto 33R (Big Back Rack, Large) havers

[Bob]

Who here regularly uses the Nitto 33R (i.e. RBW's Big Back Rack, Large) to carry panniers? How do you ensure retention of the hook at the bottom of the rack? (By "hook" here I mean the single hook on a bungee or similar elastic cord that prevents the pannier from bouncing up and off the rack rails. Swift panniers have them, as do Arkel; Ortlieb and Carradice have a different lower attachment.)

I'm pretty sure older versions of the rack had a loop at the bottom where one could secure the pannier's hook, and the current 32R (Big Back Rack, Medium) still has such a loop.

Thank you.

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Bob

[Joe Bernard]

My older style Backabikes use a strap so not a direct comparison but they move around a bit and I don't notice it. If you want to locate the hooks solidly I'm thinking you could wrap some cloth bar tape on either side, creating a groove to slot the hook into. 

Joe Bernard 

[Michael Morrissey]

I use Ortliebs and the back hook kind of points from the back to the saddle. Otherwise I don't worry about it. Usually my baggage is heavy enough for the bags to not really bounce.

[Bob]

Michael, I wish I could say the same, but I've bounced the heck out of some laden panniers before.

Joe, I've thought of that approach. May end up having to go that way.

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Bob

[John Bokman]

Bob, i don't have a Nitto rack such as yours but instead use a Tubus rear rack. I also use a Tubus front rack, which does not have a hook-catcher for my bungee-style pannier hook. What I have done is use a small hose clamp on the bottom strut of the rack, so when the hook is around the strut, it doesn't bounce backward. You could install two small clamps on either side of where you want the hook to sit so it would have a designated "slot" in which to nest.

John

[Michael Morrissey]

I like using these little straps on my bike rack. This could be just what you need:

https://www.rei.com/product/813695/sea-to-summit-hook-release-34-accessory-straps-package-of-2?sku=8136950001&store=&CAWELAID=120217890000824942&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=147670716668&CATCI=pla-1701454463905&cm_mmc=PLA_Google%7C21700000001700551_8136950001%7C92700072291911126%7CNB%7C71700000066695843&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjY64BhCaARIsAIfc7YZrXHk95bPini42mZWpOqiBSTq2zC_7Nb7-qV3tla3yHaZo-orFk44aAuLFEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[Michael Morrissey]

Actually I use the 10mm wide ones. They are great. I used them to secure bags on to the panniers of my motorcycle and they worked perfectly.

https://seatosummit.com/products/accessory-straps-hook-release?variant=4550154027036

[Bob]

John, I do exactly that with a set of Tubus Duos on the front of one bike. My original set of Duos had a metal loop, attached to the bottom of each rack, into which the pannier's hook fit. That set of Duos was totaled when I was hit by a car. My current set of Duos has no such loops, so I use small P-clamps much as you describe. Does the job. Looks hideous. Planning to replace the Duos with a pair of Nitto/Blue Lug S-Racks (https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/31396/s/nitto-s-rack/) at some point.

[Bob]

Michael, these look useful to have on hand in general. Thanks for the links.

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Bob

[Patrick Moore]

As I was just reminded myself recently, Banjo Brothers makes a little steel hook that you can bolt on using the dropout bosses.

https://banjobrothers.com/products/banjo-brothers-dropout-pannier-hooks-4-pack

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[Bob]

Thanks, Patrick. I too had forgotten that those little Banjo Bros hooks exist.

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Bob

[Keith P.]

I have wondered if the Nitto 32r might mitigate this problem with that little loop it has at the bottom.

Anyone ever tried a 32r on "larger" sized frames? 

Seems like it would just sit a little lower in profile. (closer to the wheel)

Also curious about these racks,

Keith

[Feliks Ulvåen Isaksen]

I tried the medium big bag rack on my 60 cm Sam Hillborne. It cleared the wheels, but not by a lot. I tried mounting them with fenders on and that was a no go. I suspect it might be fine depending on the frame geo and size, but if you have a 60cm Sam, I would avoid it.

[Bob]

The 32R would not leave me enough room for a fender, or rather, I think the fender would fit but would require some means of attachment to the rack to avoid rattling against it. Neither the 33R nor the 32R has such a downward-facing boss, and even if they did I wouldn't care for the whole drilling and attaching process.