Can an 11speed cassette fit on an 8-9-10 hub

[Ray Varella]

I’m sure this has been covered before but I’ll ask anyway. 

Using. 135mm mountain hub from Shimano, will an 11 speed cassette work?

I’m considering a 1x drivetrain and would prefer to use a hub I already have. 

Secondly, it looks like SRAM and Shimano both make/made 11 speed rear derailers. 

Anyone have their preferences?

 Does friction shifting become ludicrous at 11?

Thank you 

Ray

[Philip Barrett]

Yes - provided it's a mountain cluster as the lowest cog (smallest) is dished to fit the wheel.

The Shimano M7000 series of components will work for you. As will SRAM Apex and MicroShift XCD. The Shimano is easiest as there's no mixing & matching, if it says "7000" it will work together plus the cost is very reasonable.

I predate indexing & remember well it's introduction (which was a revelation) and I think friction shifting when you don't have to is ludicrous all around. Heretic words here I know! 

[Ray Varella]

Thank you Philip

I’m not opposed to indexing at all, but being one to use what I have vs buying new is always a consideration. 

Cheers,

Ray

[Philip Barrett]

I'm with you on that - made some big deals at a bike swap meet just yesterday!

But that being said, there's a value to be placed on your time, stress level & riding-zen. To my mind, if you can build up a reliable, smoothly shifting system with the minimum of fuss for well under $200 new it's probably money well spent.

I'm doing a 1x9 on my Platypus with existing parts from a Clem build, however I have in the back of my mind that it may end up being a 1x11 exactly as we're discussing.

[David Person]

I shared this article before in response to a similar question.  Hope it is helpful.

https://www.lightbicycle.com/newsletter/Bike-Freehub-Cassette-Compatibility-Manual.html

The chart at the bottom of the article is most helpful.  

[Ray Varella]

That’s a very useful article David. Thank you for sharing. 

Ray

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I run this setup on my bikes and will work if your setup is as outlined by philipr. I use friction shiting also and it works fine with 11 speed. 

I run friction shifting out of mere convenience as it's plug and play and just easier to maintain, but it has definitely worked fine for me with an 11-speed cassette. Even my old 7-speed era dura-ace friction shifters work really smoothly and nicely with my 11-speed. setups