(Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

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Doug Van Cleve

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Oct 5, 2020, 4:54:44 PM10/5/20
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Howdy folks.

I bought one of these off the list last year, came with the SKS vendors as is typical for an RBW bike. I would like to put metal fenders on it, just because. I have an unused set of the first generation V-O Zepplins, which would work, but I suspect wider is really ideal based on the clearances of the JA.   Cheap(er)-but-good is always the best for me, so I suspect the V-O Wavy fender is the best choice. Am I missing anything?

Thanks, Doug

Collin A

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Oct 5, 2020, 5:36:35 PM10/5/20
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Not cheaper, but the simworks flat 65 ( https://www.sim.works/collections/fenders-simworks-by-honjo/products/flat-65?variant=5250514812957) worked on my Joe and look nice. It took some dimpling at the chainstays, seatstays and fork crown, but they work well enough (and they were leftovers from my clem). Gives plenty of room underneath for some 650x50 cazaderos.

I just mounted them for the "rain" California is expecting at the end of the week.

Cheers,
Collin, frantically rain dancing, in Sacramento

Edwin W

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Oct 6, 2020, 9:40:05 AM10/6/20
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I have had good luck with the Berthoud fenders on my Joe.
Pictures here with a ton of room with snoqualmie pass tires (44mm).

Edwin

RichS

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Oct 6, 2020, 10:36:21 AM10/6/20
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I'll second the Berthoud fenders. I've used VOs as well and they work fine but for me, the Berthouds have been the least trouble free during installation and in use. I like their stays as well.

Best,
Rich in ATL

Jason Fuller

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Oct 6, 2020, 3:52:41 PM10/6/20
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I have used a couple sets each of Honjo (and Simworks Honjo) and Velo Orange; the Honjo's have a little nicer hardware but they are quite comparable overall.  I don't think you'd go wrong with any of the three mentioned metal options, just a matter of which has the width / style you need--and between the three, you can cover just about any tire short of a fatbike. 

Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA

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Oct 6, 2020, 4:01:54 PM10/6/20
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I'll third, fourth, or fifth this (lost count), although I'll say that Berthoud hardware has the lowest profile, so if you're worried about TCO from the front fender, Berthoud should get extra emphasis (even if they don't offer fancy hammered or fluted designs).

Don't forget to put flaps on at least the front fender so you don't damage it hopping the bike off curbs.

J Schwartz

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Oct 9, 2020, 9:00:01 AM10/9/20
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I'm also running the 60mm Berthoud steel fenders on my Appaloosa with Thunder Burt 29x2.1's 
I bought them from Peter White about 9 years ago and that sat on the shelf until last year since they wouldn't fit my Hillborne
After getting the App, I had them powder coated black 
They are pretty beefy and a little heavy, but if installed well, they will be very solid and feel integrated into the bike
*I have two sets of stays on the front fender
If I had to do it over again, I'd probably pick up one of the newer lightweight wide Sim Works offerings.

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Bill Lindsay

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Oct 9, 2020, 9:20:17 AM10/9/20
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If you ever ride off-pavement with fenders, particularly with knobbies, please consider some kind of breakaway stay mount for the front (or both fenders).  The Portland Design Works ones may be the nicest, but the Berthoud plastic clips are good also. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, Ca
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Doug Van Cleve

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Oct 10, 2020, 2:46:48 PM10/10/20
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Thanks everybody :^)

So the V-O Zeppelins are really too narrow, correct?  They would (of course) work but would become the tire size limiter rather than the frame/fork clearance...  Does anyone in the U.S. sell the 60mm Berthouds?  I also stumbled across the PDW Full Metal Beast 65mm fenders, pricey but do they fit?

Doug

Justin

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Oct 10, 2020, 7:09:22 PM10/10/20
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I know somwone who was running 700x2.35 G-Ones under 63mm Velo Orange fluted fenders. They've since downsized to 700x2.2 and fit it good. I hope to have a reason to try them out this winter 

Patrick Moore

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Oct 10, 2020, 9:01:58 PM10/10/20
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If the VOs turn out to be to narrow, try Colin at Kelpie who makes custom fat tire fenders in a thicker gauge of aluminum with 6.5 mm instead of 5 mm stays; about $250 or so, IIRC. (He used to make them from titanium at $100 more but said they were so strong that, when he collected a stick under his front, it bent the fork but not the fender; he started using aluminum after that incident.)

The finish is not polished, but they're not bad looking, and they are strong. My Matthews RBFD has 3" of toe overlap with fender, so I kick the front from time to time; no damage yet. And not too heavy, either; the 80 mm wide ones (to fit tires almost 62 mm wide) with second (tho' short) front stay weigh about 2 lb the pair, about the weight of a pair of SKS's in the wider sizes.

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Pat Smith

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Doug Van Cleve

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Oct 14, 2020, 2:01:46 PM10/14/20
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THOSE seem perfect, and cheap!  Wonder if they are temporarily or permanently out of stock?

Thanks, Doug

On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 6:53 AM Pat Smith <pbsm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Soma sells "68mm" Tanaka fenders:

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