Waterford vs Toyo AHH

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Matt Beecher

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Mar 13, 2022, 1:21:51 PM3/13/22

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I've been looking at that neat AHH over on Ebay and it got me wondering. I saw a few comments in the past about Waterford vs Toyo AHH frames. How does one tell the difference. Is the easiest/only option to look for Waterford dropouts?

Do any of the AHH frames have a kickstand plate?

Dang, I wish that were not my size.

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Matt in Oswego, IL

Cyclofiend Jim

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Mar 17, 2022, 7:06:03 PM3/17/22

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Hey there Matt -

I think there were few of the AHH production bikes which did _not_ have a kickstand plate.
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/hilsen/index.html

A recall seeing few photos of early (likely Waterford-built) with a round chainstay bridge only, but most of the ones I saw had the plate. I know mine does (a Toyo-built).

I've got a few of those early AHH's photo'd during visits to the RBWHQ&L -

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/7495148306/in/album-72157630407224566/

they all seem to have them.

IIRC, the serial numbers have some designators. But, if it has Waterford-branded dropouts, I think that's a solid indicator. They were a bit more rare. The colors were lighter on some of the Waterford ones as well.