Sam Hillborne 51, need TT length

[Paul Choi]

Can someone measure their Sam and let me know the TT length? Just trying to figure out the stem that I need for an upcoming build. The next Sam shipment comes in August. 

Thanks!

[Damien]

Mine's 56.5cm

[J S]

https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/articles/geometry-charts?_pos=1&_sid=69288c595&_ss=r

[J S]

It’s funny, if you look under bikes and hit geometry there is an apology that they are working on it but if you search geometry you get the above info.  Hard to sell bikes when you hide info.  

[Jason Fuller]

Yeah I'm pretty baffled that it's taking months to make a couple geometry charts.  I miss the days when Rivendell were unusually transparent about geometry and frame details, rather than cagey and defensive as they are now. I get that it's unusual and they're worried people will misunderstand the numbers, but that's what disclaimers are for.  

[Joe Bernard]

They need to fix it, especially as the Clem keep growing in reach. No the ETT doesn't tell all but I need to know if a 52cm frame stretches 65cm between seattube and headtube. 

Joe "just gimme the numbers" Bernard 

[J S]

Jason, it’s been more than months at this point.  Just search geometry, it’s the closest one will get.  

[J S]

That’s a long reach Joe.  Even with Chico bars on my 51 Hillborne I use an 8cm stem on it’s 56.5 cm TT.  

[Joe Bernard]

I mean Grant has a point about how the numbers don't tell the whole story, I'm 5'-7" 79-ish PBH and the custom he designed for me is 54.3 x 63. Which sounds crazy but the angles and how high and far back the bars reach make it work perfectly. But I'd still like to see the numbers on a production frame before dropping cash on it.