Nitto Technomic Stem

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J S

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Jun 25, 2024, 3:07:03 PM6/25/24
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I believe the Nitto technomic stem is basically the Tallux steel, 225 ht. I also believe this is the highest stem rise available. I have used these since I have gone to Albatross and Choco  bars. I bought a frame 2 years ago and unknown to me at the time the steerer tube was cut, the stem height is about 2.5-3 cm less than on my Sam Hillborne and I believe it is enough to aggravate my back, going from yesterdays ride. Any suggestions? I may have to sell the much sought after Saluki frame. If I did with advancing age, some balance issues I would be looking for a Willbury, Yves Gomes or a Cheviot as I like the shorter chainstays better. The Saluki is a 54 cm, so about a 51 by todays models like my Hillborne.  I would have to look at the effective TT lengths on any frame, not sure how Riv sized these step throughs. All I would need would be the ability to use 42mm tires.

If anyone has any ideas I would be open to listen, or if anyone has any of the step throughs I have mentioned above they are looking to sell or trade please let me know.

Thank,

Joel

Erik Wright

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Jun 25, 2024, 3:17:53 PM6/25/24
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Hi Joel,

Soma has a couple options. You could look at the 225mm rise Dirt Drop stem for some more height, or the mega-tall 280mm rise Nitto Technomic (25.4 version for your Chocos/Albas) for even more.

Getting a mixte would be pretty cool, but so would keeping your Saluki!

Erik, Philly

Jeffrey Arita

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Jun 25, 2024, 3:35:05 PM6/25/24
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Joel,

In addition to what Erik recommends, there is another potential solution:

I assume your Saluki has a 1" (22.2mm) threaded headset?  If so, I once owned this available from Merry Sales.  I sold it and I made sure to disclose to the new owner that the bars could be waaaay up high, maybe too high.  You will need to buy threadless stem(s) to dial in your desired fit.  The whole setup will be ugly, but it could help your overall ergonomics enabling you to keep your Saluki.

Way back when, I once owned a road bike with very low stack height, making my fit miserable.  I've since sold it.  That was before Soma had that tall adapter available.  It is nice that there are solutions out there now that could improve things.  Good luck.

Best regards,

Jeff
Claremont, CA

J S

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Jun 25, 2024, 4:14:44 PM6/25/24
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Jeff, thanks and yes it is ugly to my eyes. When I realized the the steerer tube was cut I was not sure it would be a problem for my back. As I am having some balancing issues just shy of my 73rd I may opt for one oh they step throughs if I can find one. 

Thanks again,

Joel

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J S

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Jun 25, 2024, 4:35:47 PM6/25/24
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Erik, thanks, I think either would work but the 280 would give the same length. I would have to go a bit smaller Tish the dirt dtop but very doable. 

J S

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Jun 25, 2024, 7:20:56 PM6/25/24
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Thanks Erik, I did find both of those and either might be the solution. 

Joel

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RichS

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Jun 26, 2024, 3:04:10 PM6/26/24
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Hi Joel,

One more suggestion, albeit more extreme than a stem change, would be to have a framebuilder replace the existing steerer tube with a taller one.
I guess that alternative would depend on how committed you are to keeping the Saluki. Good luck with whatever direction you choose. The mixtes you mentioned would be on my list as well if my septugenarian body demands it at some point!

Best,
Rich in ATL

J S

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Jun 26, 2024, 3:59:42 PM6/26/24
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Rich, thanks. A forum friend said he has a nitto steerer extender. I am waiting for pics. He said it would give me up to 3” added height. That might be the least expensive way ro go about this and solve the problem. I am hoping it is feasible.

Hoping you are well and riding, my Hillborne seems to be the most comfortable but the bars are 3cm higher than the saddle compares to the Saluki and yes, I would like to Keep the Saluki if possible. 

Joel



Kim H.

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Jun 26, 2024, 4:25:49 PM6/26/24
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Hi Joel,

I bought a NITTO Technomic NTC-280 Stem on my 58cm Nitto Bosco bars from Alex Cycles without going threadless. I am happy with it on my Clem.

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Kim Hetzel.

Kim H.

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Jun 26, 2024, 4:26:47 PM6/26/24
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As we grow older, the gears get lower and the handlebars get higher.

Kim Hetzel.

J S

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Jun 26, 2024, 5:56:52 PM6/26/24
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Thanks Kim, you’ve got that right and the miles get less and speed slower. But if I can still ride I am happy. 

Kim H.

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Jun 26, 2024, 6:04:58 PM6/26/24
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You are more than welcome, Joel. 

So, in a nutshell, you are trying to find a way to get your handlebar higher ? Right  ?

After a long research on the internet, I found that long quill stem. I was and remain very pleased with the outcome. I just couldn't cross the threadless stem bridge as stubborn as I am from being old school. My bike would not look right. 

Let me know what your decision choice is. 

Sincerely, 
Kim.



J S

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Jun 26, 2024, 9:39:15 PM6/26/24
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Kim, 
I’m with you on threadless, not for me. I think I found the same stem, maybe on Ben’s, Technomic XL or something like that. 

Thanks again. 

Kim H.

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Jun 26, 2024, 10:32:00 PM6/26/24
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@Joel,

You are more than welcome.
I hope it works out very well for you.
Send some pictures to us herein would be nice, when you get it installed.

Kim Hetzel.

Gordon Stam

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Jun 27, 2024, 1:42:30 AM6/27/24
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Joel, maybe look into one of those Nitto 4 bolt face plate stems. I believe that the quill is just as long as the Technomic, or Tallux, at 225 cm but the stem comes out at 90 degrees which gives you a few extra cm of height. A little geometry, or an online stem length/height calculator, will tell you how much.

Concerning a step through for balance issue mitigation - I don't know. Maybe getting on is easier since you don't necessarily have to swing your leg over the saddle but when you stop the lack of a crossbar makes keeping the bike upright a little trickier. I got my Clem Jr. this spring (love it, actually) and that lack of a cross bar caught me out on a few occasions and I dropped the bike. I've since gotten used to it, sort of. That said youay be right, getting on and off might be easier if the balance is getting to be an issue. Good luck!


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Kim H.

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Jun 27, 2024, 1:56:31 AM6/27/24
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@Joel, 

One of the main reasons why I bought a Clem Smith Jr L bicycle is having no difficulty in mounting and dismounting of my bike as a senior cyclist. I found it difficult to swing my right leg over the back end of my former bike. 

The ride comfort of my Clem is steady and smooth as an elongated bike of 80 inches. 

Worth considering IMHO. 

Kim Hetzel. 

J S

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Jun 27, 2024, 12:38:06 PM6/27/24
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Thanks Gorgonzola. I’ll look at Nitto face plate.


Gordon Stam

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Jun 28, 2024, 6:11:04 PM6/28/24
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Gorgonzola. Now there's an online moniker. Is it too late to change my screen name?

When I got my 59 cm Clem I put a Technomic stem on it with a 130mm reach and was thinking that perhaps I should have gotten a 64 because I had the stem maxed out to get the handlebars up to the height I wanted.  In a similar configuration the faceplate stem gave me two more inches (51mm) of rise. That did the trick. I've since gone to a faceplate with a 110 extension and a handlebar with more rise and everything is still hunky dory.

J S

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Jun 28, 2024, 9:07:03 PM6/28/24
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Gordon, thanks. I ordered a Technomic XL today from Ben’s.  Also some bar tape from rivendell? Of course a faceplate would, if I needed to change it again make life easier. 

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