$1800 a fair price for a 53cm Susie? 2-piece silver crankset included

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Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)

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Jul 12, 2021, 12:58:31 PM7/12/21
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A friend is considering buying a used 53cm orange Susie, including bb, headset, and 2-piece Silver crank. It's def been ridden hard but in good condition. He seems to be balking at the price but I think it's a fair ask, considering the size and color are most in-demand and difficult to source and it includes bb and crank. What do you think? 
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Brewster Fong

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Jul 12, 2021, 2:26:05 PM7/12/21
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Is this for an entire bike or a frameset with bb, headset and crankset?  If the latter, I would say it is a bit high as you can find plenty of used framesets for less.  Of course, YMMV! Good Luck!

Joe Bernard

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Jul 12, 2021, 3:32:34 PM7/12/21
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A year ago I would have balked but now? The worldwide bike/parts shortage has created an insane market which has dramatically affected used Riv prices, most of which are unavailable new from them right now. So yeah, if the frame isn't all scratched to heck it's fair. Someone will pay that. 

Joe "not selling mine...yet" Bernard

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Ed Carolipio

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Jul 12, 2021, 5:15:38 PM7/12/21
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Probably where the market is for the Gus + Susie right now: long production schedule, new Riv model so not a big used market, no real comparable designs so hard to find an alternative, and the people who have them tend to hold onto them. Maybe ask the seller if they could include other parts they have on or for the bike (e.g., brakes, seatpost) to take some of the sting out?

--Ed C.

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Joe Bernard

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Jul 12, 2021, 5:43:21 PM7/12/21
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There's a Susie and Cheviot on SF Bay Craigslist that are probably optimistically priced, but a complete 45cm Clem L listed at $1600 is gone. I'll bet they got at or near asking price, which is about what a new one costs. 

Jason Fuller

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Jul 12, 2021, 10:32:56 PM7/12/21
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Supposedly, a new batch is coming late this year so I would factor that in if there's any concern about its used-ness, but if it's a local pickup (ie no shipping on top of that cost), a 'free' Silver 2pc crankset for the price of a new frameset would be alright by my COVID boom-adjusted standards! 

Joe Bernard

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Jul 12, 2021, 11:28:53 PM7/12/21
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Yes and Riv timelines were meaningless before a worldwide frames/parts shortage during a bike boom. If you see a used Riv you like and you can possibly justify the price, buy it. 

Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)

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Jul 16, 2021, 10:02:52 AM7/16/21
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Turns our the seller backed out anyway, so it's moot at this point. Thanks for feedback, though. I guess the Susie is worth hanging onto. ;-)

Joe Bernard

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Jul 16, 2021, 5:37:57 PM7/16/21
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"I guess the Susie is worth hanging onto. ;-) "

Hehe, it is. I have a 53 I bought for an ebike conversion I then decided not to do, and now I'm not sure why I need a custom and a Susie. But every time I try to talk myself into selling it I go for a ride and talk myself right back out it! They're really nice bikes. 

Joe Bernard
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