Replacing Albastache with Losco

[J Schwartz]

Seeking guidance here on stem length.

I have a first gen. 56cm Hillborne with a very long top tube.

Currently built up with Albastache bars on a very short stem ...this Crust stem with only 25mm on extension.   It's a great pairing for the Albastache.

I think I want to try Loscos on this bike.  I like using bar-ends and that's one of the bars that seems to accommodate them well.  

Can anyone suggest an appropriate stem length for the Loscos?  I think I would probably go Technomic vs a hi-rise faceplater....although I do have an 85mm one of those already on-hand.

pics show the location of bars and how far they come back

thank you

JS

[Edwin W]

Where is that bridge? It is a beautiful shot with a good looking bike!

Edwin

[Joe Bernard]

I'd try the Face Plater first, you'll know pretty quick how much further forward you'll need those very-different-from-stache bars. Fortunately the Face Plater is open clamp so you can test mount without scratching things up. 

Joe Bernard 

[JohnS]

Hello JS,

In this case, switching to the losco bar which have no forward sweep and have a lot of back sweep, it maybe a good idea to follow Will's advice to use an adapter stem, 1 to 1 1/8 and then try different thread less stems until you dial in the extension to your liking. Details were in this news letter:

https://us7.campaign-archive.com/?u=ad1569fa93a2ab2374ead2fde&id=bec688021e

FWIW, Velo Orange is having a sale on silver thread less stems which I've used in the past and think look very nice. The stems with 6 degree rise can be mounted upside down to be 0 rise.

https://velo-orange.com/products/threadless-stem-25-4

Good luck,

JohnS

[Tim Bantham]

Jason, If you think you might want to test out several different stem lengths with a threaded to threadless adapters let me know. I have a Nitto version of this adapter in my parts bin that I could mail down for you to try. I could pick it back up the next time I see you. Hit me up if that is a route you end up taking. Unforunately all of my threadless stems are 31.8 so I couldn't be much help in that department.

[Keith Paugh]

Great looking bike!

What wheels do you have on there?

k.

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Seeking guidance here on stem length.

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[Chester]

J Schwartz wrote:

Currently built up with Albastache bars on a very short stem ...this Crust stem with only 25mm on extension.  

Sorry, below is off topic, but good luck on getting things dialed in with a Losco.

This all reminded me of coming across a picture of one of the Wright Brothers' bicycles that is in the Smithsonian National Air & Space Museum:

https://airandspace.si.edu/multimedia-gallery/52387315912af98bcb12fojpg

Saw it in a Reddit thread...

https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/comments/1d8n0ls/original_wright_brothersbuilt_bicycle_1_of_only_5/

...with one of the comments highlighting a couple stems that Analog Cycles sells, with some commentary of prevailing geometry at the time the Wrights made bikes:

https://analogcycles.com/products/analog-wright-stem

Chester

SF Bay Area

 

[Jason Fuller]

I agree with the previous comments on trying things out via adapter; I also agree it's a great looking bike and a beauty photo! 

I would place my bet that you'll find a 11 or 12cm stem to be right. I know that's massively longer than what you have right now, but the Losco indeed comes back a LOT. I too believe it's the right bar based on your current reach and bar height though! 

On Sunday 16 June 2024 at 05:25:16 UTC-7 tandyn...@gmail.com wrote:

Love the negative extension of the Wright stem in the reddit post. After seeing that, I would totally try the BJ stem backwards if reach was the issue. I use Albastache on my 55 Platypus with a 50mm Technomic Stem. It's great for me, now the BJ stem has me curious. 

[J Schwartz]

thanks , very helpful !

the bridge is the trestle path in Rosendale NY

[J Schwartz]

[Doug Van Cleve]

Hey JS.

If it were me, I would just wait until you have the Losco bar.  Then you can just position it on top of your current setup and it should be pretty easy to figure out the stem extension that puts the shifters where you want them...

Doug