Day Ride Kit

[Deacon Patrick]

What is your day ride kit, why, and for what type of riding?

- coffee in thermos and insulated (soon to be a wood quaich/ kuksa)

- pipe and tobacco kit

- ventile cotton analogy rain jacket from Hilltrek

- fishnet long john shirt (turns my sun shirt into a medium weight insulated shirt, but I have to put it next to the skin. Weighs near nothing and takes minimal space. It and my rain jacket would be sufficient for 95% of days, but the weather folks don't get the five % right very often, so I haul wool...)

- (often) boiled wool 3-season weight sweater (extra layers cause it snows anytime, and thunderstorms can drop temps into the 40's, dump hail for an hour or more, and then keep on raining steady if they settle in)

- Sitting tarp

- Bike kit (pump, tube, patch, allen tool, et al)

- Buck 110 knife

- Digital typewriter (Freewrite: think Kindle e-reader on an quality mechanical keyboard)

- Camera, tripod, etc.

- Irish straps and shopsack for shopping pick up days.

- Fire tinder kit (the only time you need a fire is when it's too wet to start one. Grin.)

- compass

- rosary

-pen knife

- water pen light purifier

- no food. I prefer to ride fasted

Why so much? Because I want to ride however long I ride, regardless of weather. With a brain that can get overloaded by overstimulation, I go prepared to emergency overnight if required). I haven't weighed the set up, but it's likely 2/3rds of the way to my overnight/weeklong/forever set up weight. Add tent, bag, pad, food, more water bottles, and I'm good for forever. Grin.

With abandon,

Patrick

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[Ray Evans]

Well here you go! Did Grant do a few of these when he had the Bike Book & Hatchet shop downtown???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucx9UrMKjLU

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[Deacon Patrick]

What is your day ride kit, why, and for what type of riding?

[William deRosset]

Day ride? There are day rides, then DAY Rides.

For a hour or few, on roads (paved or otherwise), in summer weather, here on the northern Front Range, I will bring a water bottle or two, my wallet, short finger gloves, a lightweight long sleeve wool jersey and lycra shorts, a spare tubular, sealant and valve core wrench, Bic lighter, and a pocketknife. A bike and frame pump. Cycling cap and sunnies.

For more of an all-day outing, I am likely to be going into more remote areas, at higher altitude, with fewer opportunities for assistance. DP has described the high country's weather well. It is good to be reasonably prepared.

To the above I add leg warmers, toe covers, rain claw mitts, a rain jacket (usually just a race cape for summer conditions), an ear band, long-finger glove liners.

Food makes an appearance—some dried fruit or a sandwich, wet wipes, mixed salt electrolytes, water purification tabs.

I also switch bikes so that I have fenders, lights, and a front handlebar bag, which, due to how my bikes are set up, in turn necessitates bringing two tubes and a patch kit vs a spare tubular.

The tools get more extensive: tire levers, 3-4-5mm allen keys, Park multi-wrench with 8mm allen, folding pliers, a chain tool. Spoke key.

Gaffer's tape. Spare chain links and fiberfix spoke. A needle and thread. A headlamp. A clif bar (The aluminized plastic wrapper makes a functional tire boot, and if you need to boot a tire you should have a snack while doing so). Chain oil.

A camera—usually my phone. My regular multifocal glasses vs awesome shades.

For longer rides I add a map, bonk rations, chamois cream, a toothbrush, floss, Rx meds, and basic first aid stuff. A contingency plan and itinerary filed with Responsible Parties.

For camping I add a saddlebag with sleeping bag, air mattress, ground cloth and tarp, bug repellent, a puffy jacket and long pants, sun hat, and (sometimes) cooking gear/food/bear bag. I will also add a container of dr bronner's soap.

Best Regards,

Will

William M deRosset
Fort Collins CO USA

[Ryan M.]

Most of my riding consists of hour to two hour long rides either mtb or on the back country roads by the house. It's all recreation and I don't ever have a destination. Generally I don't carry much except water. I usually wear a button down rayon shirt or one of those long sleeve fishing shirts from Columbia sports wear company. I actually still wear bib shorts, which I find totally comfortable for riding...during the summer that is. If I'm out riding in colder weather I layer up with some long sleeve hiking shirts and thicker gloves and I wear insulated leggings I've had for years. Still going strong too. Bibshorts are on but underneath all that. I just really like the comfort of bib shorts. On the feet I switch from regular sneakers, to five ten mtb shoes, to insulated work boots in the winter, to Sidi mtb clipless things with buckles and velcro for when I'm riding the cyclocross bike with shimano spd pedals. 

On the bike I generally carry tools, tube, pump apparatus in a saddle bag of some sort. I have a range of sizes to choose from. Now that the farmers are putting up their local stands full of produce I am probably going to install my medium saddle sack and a rack onto the appaloosa and start filling it up with goodness on my rides. 

[Mat Grewe]

Do you ever wear the fishnet as a baselayer in wildly hot temperatures?  I wonder if it would help one stay cooler as well...

Mat

Driftless Wisconsin where temperatures vary between -30 and 100+ in a given year...

On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 10:05:31 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

[George Schick]

Deacon - wot!! No toilet paper?!  And a small trowel to bury the, ahem, proceeds?  Coffee goes right through me.  I'd be in trouble shortly.  Or do you just rely what Ma Nature has available?

On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 10:05:31 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

[Eric Norris]

Necessity is the mother of invention:

https://homesteadsurvivalsite.com/toilet-paper-alternatives/ 

--Eric Norris
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[Deacon Patrick]

Mat, Och! Nae. That would be like wearing a thin down jacket. The idea of the fishnet is the same as any insulation: pockets of air that warm and stay put. The difference is the fish net is easily ventilated for aerobic activity and changing conditions. I put it on generally in the dry low 40's, or wet upper 50's. It makes my chambray summer shirt warmer than a wool flannel.

George, Och! Nae. Round these parts, there is always a stick for digging the 6" hole, and dry grass, pinecones, sticks, or even rocks (leaves are too loose/small to use easily). Generally not needed on a day ride though, at least for me.

With abandon,

Patrick

[George Schick]

Eric - in my experience they've missed the best one.  Before I moved to this congested urban/suburban sprawl area I used to do most of my riding on rural farm-to-market roads.  I found that the leaves of the Velvet Leaf plant make the best emergency alternative during Summer months https://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/weeds/plants/velvetleaf.htm

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[Mat Grewe]

Ah, well dear folk, us sophisticated aristocrats shy not away from the backcountry bidet.

Sir Matthew the Immaculate

[Craig Montgomery]

This time of year in southern AZ. 20-40 mile rides pavement and/or dirt. Same stuff. Just change bikes. 

Sunscreen/zinc oxide for nose/top of ears

Phone (per orders of my wife, not me)

Camera: Panasonic Lumix

iPOD with 900 tunes if in an urban setting

Battery powered back up lights front and rear to supplement IQ Cyo

Water: soda water/cranberry mix, approx. a pint and a half for every 10 miles

Mini-First Aid

Under 40 miles no food (a friend carries mustard packs for the salt)

Appropriate drugs

Appropriate clothes: long sleeve cotton, MUSA shorts with boxer briefs, wide brimmed hat, gloves, raincape if monsoons

Shades with rear view mirror

Tools: open ends, allens, chain tool with spoke wrench, fibre fix (actually used it once), headset/pedal wrench, crank wrench, Leatherman, 60 year old Sturmey Archer axle wrench.

Frame pump, tube, patch kit, tire irons

Pocket pistol (.22 mag)

Craig in Tucson

[Eric Norris]

What is the pistol for? Are the bike paths particularly unfriendly there?

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[Deacon Patrick]

I've had and witnessed enough odd encounters since people have busted out from quarantine that I've added my GB wee hatchet to my daily kit.

With abandon,

Patrick

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[Steve Palincsar]

I'm surprised: judging from your photos, I'm surprised you encounter any people at all on your rides.  Or is the hatchet not meant for people?

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Alexandria, Virginia 
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[Deacon Patrick]

Oh, I ride out of my wee town and through another five miles away before I get to the trails. The hatchet is only intended for wood, but available for alternate needs should an educational opportunity presents itself. 

With abandon,

Patrick

[Craig Montgomery]

Hah...I cut and pasted from a word document and didn't notice my "it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it" equipment. When on Tucson's bike paths, which have won international awards for their design, I usually don't go heeled (old West term). Although there are some pretty vicious 4 year old girls on training wheels out there. 

On the other hand, when riding the backroads out of town, which is 75% of my riding, I'm always armed. Southern AZ backcountry has some odd and aggressive characters now and then. Think Deliverance with cactus. Besides the ubiquitous Border Patrol who for the most part leave cyclists alone, twice I've seen at a distance drug runners leading 3-4 horse pack trains. On the old 2-lane paved road between Tucson and Nogales some teens in the back of a pick up threw a 2x4 at my wife and missed her head by a foot. I was forced off the road (he went off the road too) on the T'ohono Reservation. Drunk miner, not a T'ohono. I was shot at once along Highway 82 by some 20 somethings speeding by at 60mph. The youthful passenger emptied the clip of a .22 automatic pistol at me. Not with any degree of accuracy as they must have been pretty wasted by their erratic driving. That was on a multi-day camptour. No matter. So you can say I'm a wee bit gun shy. Pun intended. 

Ultra Urban Honkies might think you take a weapon to protect yourself against all the animals in the backcountry (there are a lot). Nah they're more afraid of you. Besides a .22 mag is the last thing you want to use against a bear or mountain lion. I carry this when I camptour:   https://www.campmor.com/collections/survival/products/coghlans-emergency-survival-horn   It's worked twice for me with bears and the damn skunks (everywhere is southern AZ mountains). Once dispatched a rattler in my camp (they're territorial). Filleted and marinated in BBQ sauce, he was delicious. Somewhere between chicken and fish which evolutionarily makes sense. Stories over. 

Craig in Tucson

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[Deacon Patrick]

"Ultra Urban Honkies might think you take a weapon to protect yourself against all the animals in the backcountry..."

This, Craig! This. They also wear bells, put bells on their dogs, bring toilet paper and leave it after use, and hang their colorfully bagged dog poo on trees for the kindly elves to take each night on their trail clean up rounds. You get a whole other level of danger though, with your Deliverance encounters. Yikes.

With abandon,

Patrick

[Craig Montgomery]

That's how you tell the best campgrounds Patrick. The number of tissues per square meter. And of course when you're bike touring the scenic routes are defined by the number of throwaway diapers per linear mile. 

Craig in Tucson

[ascpgh]

My long rides usually pass through small communities enough that I can procure/consume food and drink to augment my provided basics. most of my kit is for maintenance of the bike and contingent support of the rider. 

Flats, wet weather, dry chain, unexpected delays anticipated but also are minor injuries, some of the places we ride may not be where help will be reach you quickly so I accept a greater responsibility of immediate aid and likely self evacuation and make sure I have some necessities to those contingencies.  Any first aid kit is only any good if you know what the pieces are, what they're for and how to use them, the generalized ones are outdone by a good skinned knee but will curiously have a CPR mouth shield. I do better collecting individual items in a ziplock. 

My kit anticipates the sorts of things I've experienced personally and come across others suffering when riding. Being able to stop bleeding. Having enough bandage to cover abrasions (self-adhesive or Telfa plus tape), handful of nitrile gloves, Dr. Bronner's in the 2 oz bottle, white cloth medical tape, super glue, cravat or large clean bandana, two safety pins, alcohol wipes, Aquaphor, chlorhexidine glutamate, my Swiss Army Knife and charged phone. 

Lesson learned #1: you will never have exactly what you need. 

Lesson learned #2: you can improvise, this isn't a graded event like the American Heart Association CPR test. The ABCDE mnemonic helps if you can remember it. 

l\Lesson learned #3: in the event of closed head injuries, anything requiring CPR or any other condition you are unsure of how to help the injured and disabled person, get your phone out and call 911. You are going to be getting busy and if you can't bring it home the cavalry had better be on the way. If you had a remote location crash and are perseverating on little things, that confusion could be either shock or a closed head injury (helmet or not) and should be responded to clearly and quickly since your ability to do either will be diminishing. 

Lesson #4: If you seek help for yourself and do not have spouse, friend, or family coming you are likely to get a ride in an ambulance. You will go to the hospital ER dressed as you are, your bike will not make the trip likely be tossed aside like some flotsam and jetsam. Do you have a way to conceal it and lock it for later recovery? Do you have your ID, insurance card? Do you have a way to pay expenses due?

These are experience-based observations of events I have come across or experienced while riding. Bicycling is not a particularly injurious activity but, as in any any pursuit, will include some folks who are beyond their skills, or poise, their intentions unimportant. Accidents happen. Steps will have to be taken. Being blank on the first aid front is akin to having a flat with nothing to address it. We've all had things happen and a few supplies are worth a pile of gold when you need them. 

Be safe, be prepared. 

Andy Cheatham

Pittsburgh

[Craig Montgomery]

Think I'll sell all my bikes and take up knitting. 

Craig in Tucson

[Eric Floden]

Thank you, Andy, good reminder. I will update my First Aid certificate when I can.

EricF

Riding again in Vancouver

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[George Schick]

If I were you I'd be w-a-a-a-y more concerned about being shot at, hit with 2x4's, surprised by drug smugglers, etc. than the kinds of things that might occur in biking accidents like Andy's talking about.  At least you have some control over avoiding/preventing the latter.

[Craig Montgomery]

 Sorry for knocking this thread off it's original purpose but I've got to get something straight:     

     I realized after all my creepy stories put you on edge that I should point out these events occurred over a period of 30 years, roughly 1978 to 2008. And most of them well before Tucson became known as a bike friendly city (propaganda at first) and Arizona a great place to tour. Over the last decade cyclists in Tucson have become an everyday visibility and the city has created a series of paths and bike worthy streets that make commuting a piece of cake. So the feelings for and responses to have mellowed out. Those attitudes have spread out to a degree into the more unpopulated areas, but there are still some places where you need be aware enough to keep yourself from being a victim. That's true anywhere. 

     

       And for each of these negative events there is an equal and opposite positive event, maybe more. More than once someone has stopped and asked if I needed help. While touring a backroad in a remote part of the state a car passed us, stopped about a quarter mile ahead (at this point I start wondering where I put my revolver), and then left a bag of oranges on the shoulder. Once in the middle of a monsoonal downpour a fella stopped and asked if I wanted a lift. I thanked him and tried to explain the joy of riding in the rain when you're properly equipped. He drove away smiling and shaking his head. Another time we were setting up camp after 65 miles (with no amenities) of headwinds and 100 degree heat. We were so beat the idea of cooking did not appeal to us at all when a little girl from a family that was camping nearby walked over with a platter of BBQ ribs. Can still taste 'em. 

It all comes out in the wash.

Craig in Tucson

Craig in Tucson