MUSA pants, knickers, shorts coming back

[Berkeleyan]

I saw on the Blahg that RBW is getting in some new clothing. My MUSA shorts have been the best garment I've owned, sturdy and perfectly comfortable for hiking, riding, and general knocking about. Seemingly indestructible, yet I'll still get another pair or two.

Anyone know if they'll be returning to solid pockets? My one complaint, I can't abide mesh pockets.

- Andrew, Berkeley

[RichS]

Andrew, resounding yes! MUSA shorts have been one of my favorite Riv garments too. Didn't know there was a version made with mesh pockets. The four pairs I own must be 6-7 years old with (thankfully) solid pockets. Still going strong.

Best,

Rich in ATL

[Frank Brose]

Had a pair on yesterday. I think I have 4 or 5 pairs and  the only complaint I have would be the belt. If they had a web belt they would be the best shorts I've ever owned. Probably still are. I'll buy more.

Frank

Tomahawk,WI

[Steven Sweedler]

I agree with Frank about the belt. I put a non elastic web belt in both of my pairs of shorts. 

Steve

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[Eric Marth]

I for one wish they were significantly shorter!

[J S]

I have 2 pair long and 2 shorts from the first offering, the mustard color ones.  I wear them, but not as often as I used to.  Great pants and shorts.  I like to rode with the pants when cook since I can cinch the bottom of the leg opening.  

On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:23:13 PM UTC-4 Berkeleyan wrote:

[Peter Adler]

Although a pair of pants (or maybe knickers) sound appealing, I don't expect to buy the new ones.

I own an earlier generation of the grey/blue pants, with Velcro leg straps. The material is fine, for what it is. My two primary beefs are the elastic belt and the silly-low rise, which combine to produce visible buttcrack while riding, or at least visible underpants. It's meant that I hardly ever wear them on a bike at all, as I do not wish to impose that scenery on riders behind me.

As I recall, the rise is low by design, because Grant doesn't like loose fabric on his butt. I do, especially if it means that the waistband stays covered by my shirt/jersey/sweater/jacket. Perhaps it's the difference between riding drop bars and uprights, which I'm not going to do

As with other Rivendell products, Grant designs products that work for Grant. If what works for Grant doesn't work for you, you're going to have to go elsewhere.

Peter Adler

 who gets exposed buttcrack with MUSA pants+Nitto Technomic+Noodles, so either Grant's beta-testing is not comprehensive or he doesn't care about buttcrack exposure

Berkeley, CA/USA

[Lyman Labry]

I’ve worn the Musa shorts for several years.  I dislike the elastic belt and the seams on the rear pockets did not hold for long….other than than, great durable shorts for cycling.

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[Patrick Moore]

+ 1,000. Why, oh why do manufacturers of "cycling" pants cut them low in back or, alternatively, with high crotches? I've owned any number of high-end and low-end cycling shorts, knickers, and long pants that, this defect apart, would have been wonderful, but instead cut them like low-rise street pants. 

One recent offender is the pair of Osloh cycling jeans as heavily advertised by Bike Snob. I had to pay a tailor ~$100 to have the waist pinched to get a halfway-decent fit -- her work did not solve the low waistband, but it did make the waist snug at the back, thus less liable to dropping. (And, I had her remove some of the superfluous "cycling" adaptations, like the useless chain pad on the inside of the right ankle  -- they sewed in a snap-fastened ankle cinch; if that works, why the pad??; and the stupid doubled rear pockets which just make it hard to get your wallet properly placed. 

OTOH, the pair of Nordstrom medium wool flannel dress pants that I had converted to cycling dress knickers fit wonderfully, because they are high rise; not 1940s high rise, but Jack Kennedy high rise, so that when you drop down into the hooks, your back remains securely covered and insulated from cold drafts between waistband and jersey hem.

My early-edition Riv knickers weren't the worst offenders, but they were cut needlessly low in back. I sold them on for this and various other cycling imperfections, at least to my taste.

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Patrick Moore

Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum