FS: 55cm Hillborne

[Ahmed Elgasseir]

Let's try this again

For Sale my 55cm Hillborne. Purchased in 2019 from Riv. Velocity Atlas 700c, Silver cranks and MKS pedals, Berthoud saddle, Nitto seatpost and Nitto Dirtdrop stem, Crust/Nitto dropbars plus Brooks bartape with stem shifter. Nitto front rack with Wald big basket. Only about 1k miles on it. Selling to thin the herd and make room for another build. $2900 and prefer local only. Would love to sell it here before I put it up on Craigslist. 

thanks

Ahmed in San Mateo, CA

[Ahmed Elgasseir]

PRICE DROP. I got absolutely no response at all so......... guess I am too high? OR No one wants a Hillborne these days? Make a reasonable offer. 

Ahmed in San Mateo

[Chris Halasz]

Ahmed 

The Sam is a very nice build and color - just one size too small for me. 

[Ahmed Elgasseir]

Thanks Chris!!! 

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[E. Ricky Creek]

I hope you find a buyer, Ahmed. 

I hope folks realize that the Hillborne was sort of the bike that started the whole modern era of Rivendells, as I don't feel like the Hillborne gets as much regard as the newer, evolved models. The Bomba came first as a 6 degree upsloping tubed bike, but the Hillborne was the first of the Taiwan expanded geometry bicycles that have come to exemplify Rivendell (this is according to my fuzzy memory). It was meant to be a do all, beat it up, ride it like crazy, never repaint it (I recall grant saying he hoped nobody would ever repaint one), and pass it down to your children bike. I honestly think anyone looking for a Riv and fits this 55cm Hillborne couldn't find a better bicycle. I have had a super secret 56cm double TT Waterford Hillborne since 2011 and it is a never sell for me. It was my primary touring bicycle for a number of years, also commuter, shopper, and do all bicycle. It can use drops or uprights. Folks seem to want a Riv mixte or droptube, and I have had both and sold them both because I never actually used the lower tube for stepping "in" to the bicycle, I still throw my leg over, and with the expanded geometry of the Hillborne, you don't have to worry about standover anyway.

Also, and this is again only my experience, I never got along with the long wheelbase that the newer Riv's have. I much prefer the ride of my old style Atlantis, Hillborne, and Simpleone. 

I hope this helps anyone on the fence. 

[MoVelo]

Ahmed

Your Hillborne looks great. I am in the market for one but in a larger size. If your's was a 58 I'd be all over it.

I do see there is a 60cm on Ebay with a starting bid of $2200.00. I am a little confused about that size tho as the chart I have shows a 58 and then a 62. I confess I haven't been following the Sams as closely as some on this list have, and so I don't have a good grasp on the heritage. Rivendell does seem to refine the bikes as the years go on. I noticed the current generation as shown on their website has different seat stay connections as yours. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/165308900740?hash=item267d2da584:g:qd4AAOSwF0Vh9upF

You might follow it to see where the bidding ends up to get an idea of what they bring there. 

Good luck.

JP in Central NE

[Patrick Moore]

Demand comes and goes. I recall trying to sell my first-gen SH frameset, and this with lowrider brazeons added to enhance value, and getting no interest at all on this or the boblist. I finally had my brother sell it in CA. Then, wait a bit, and SHs posted for sale are snapped up.

$2,900 does seem a bit high from the other offer prices I dimly recall seeing.

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[Ahmed Elgasseir]

Thanks a lot Ricky! My go to is my MUSA Atlantis from back in 2014 and I agree with you, I am not a fan of the new longer wheelbase. 

A

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[Ahmed Elgasseir]

Thanks so much for the tip JP!

A

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[John Bokman]

Riv has changed their sizing on these (and other) frames over the years. This looks to be the first gen Sam because the headtube is solid orange - not cream accent. Meaning, the 60cm frame is quite a bit bigger than the current 58cm frame. Unless I'm mistaken, it would correlate more closely to the now 62cm frame.

I owned a 2009 60cm frame  (solid orange, no cream accent) and found it too big (long). In retrospect the 56cm (next size down) would have been perfect. I "know" this, because I now ride a 58cm Sam (roughly the "same" size of the old 56) that is "perfect".

[Bill Lindsay]

Ahmed is selling a $2900 Hillborne.  

I notice you have a super expensive saddle on the bike.  If you sold the bike with no saddle, you could drop the price.  If you don't like the saddle, maybe you could sell the saddle separately which could also lower the price of the remaining build.  You could do something similar with the front rack, which is pretty valuable, and desirable, and currently sold out at Riv.  

I mention this because over on iBob, a poster is requesting to buy a Berthoud Aubisque saddle, in any color, before going and paying full retail.  If your Berthoud saddle is an Aubisque, maybe you could sell it separately.  Most buyers of used bikes expect to BYO pedals and saddle.  

Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito, CA

On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:

[Ahmed Elgasseir]

Thanks for the advice Bill. I’ll think on that. 

Best

A

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[Brady Smith]

Hi Ahmed, 

Any chance you'd consider parting it out or just selling the rolling chassis? 

Brady in SLC

[Ahmed Elgasseir]

Possibly. What exactly are you looking for? and at what price range?

A

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[steve]

What stem shifters are on the Sam?

[Ahmed Elgasseir]

Can’t remember off hand but I’ll take a pic and upload later today. Thank you!

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[Hetchins52]

Hey Ahmed,

I'd agree with Bill: Put another saddle on (And, raise the seat post at least two cm!) -- A Berthoud is worth too much and they are quite individual. 

Take the basket and rack off -- They obscure the view of the front and represent one use of the bike that may narrow it down too much. 

And, pull the bags off and offer them separately. 

Now you can offer the more essential Sam.

Turn it around and get a front quarter picture and then a full drive side picture of the bike. (NO coffee cup!!)

I'd be interested but I think I'd go for a 51cm/650b frame.

David in Berkeley (Who is happy with your old 55cm Roadeo!)

[Ahmed Elgasseir]

Thanks for the tips David! I’ll get on it and update the posting. Glad you’re enjoying the Roadeo. Kinda wish I hadn’t sold it. :-)

Best

A

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[Ahmed Elgasseir]

Per the advice of the esteemed Bill L. and the venerable David I have updated the bike pic and price. $2500 no pedals, saddle. 

Thanks! 

Ahmed in San Mateo 

[Joe Mullins]

This is a really nice bike! If anyone is on the fence about buying a Sam, I can say with confidence that I absolutely love mine. I have it setup with albatross bars and a 110mm Faceplater. It’s the most comfortable bike I’ve ever owned and its my [current] favorite bike. But I’m yet to try a longer wheelbase Riv so that might change…

If anyone has questions about the Sam feel free to reach out.

Joe

On Feb 6, 2022, at 8:10 AM, Ahmed Elgasseir <aelga...@castilleja.org> wrote:

Per the advice of the esteemed Bill L. and the venerable David I have updated the bike pic and price. $2500 no pedals, saddle. 

Thanks! 

Ahmed in San Mateo 

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[Doug H.]

IF I sold my new Clem L I would buy this Sam Hillborne as I ride mostly road miles and this would suit me better. The Clem is so  nice though for all around riding on multiple surfaces. Alas, I bought what was available new from Rivendell at the time. The new photos do present the bicycle well.

Doug

[Bill Lindsay]

Ahmed is excluding a $200 saddle and $75 pedals.  He's pictured the bike without the $40 basket.  He's dropped the price a full $400, so he's paying more than retail buying back those parts from the future buyer.  

...but now you've added a $240 rear rack in the photos?  Is that $240 included?  If so, you've dropped the price of the bike a TON.  My advice would be to take the racks off and sell them.  That rear rack (the 33R) is sold out at Riv.  Somebody has got to want that.  

Bill "free sales consultant" Lindsay

El Cerrito, CA

[Johnny Alien]

I would be pretty interested in that front rack if you wanted to sell that off separate from the bike. If you go that way shoot me a message.

[Eric Marth]

I asked about the front rack a few days ago and... no dice! 

[Frank Burkybile]

I have been there before Ahmed and it can be frustrating! I have sold several bikes online over the years and some of the best seem to get no response, need to get posted several times before getting any interest, then only to get tire kickers who only want to look. Other times, one post will get a lot of same-day interest. Fortunate timing (luck?) seems to be the key. Perhaps when folks start to get a little spring fever in a few weeks, you will find someone who is a match. 

[Ahmed Elgasseir]

Thanks Frank! And all for the advice. 

Still available $2500 without the pedals, saddle and back rack. Still a helluva bike and a good deal. 

Ahmed in San Mateo

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