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Eric Norris

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Jan 6, 2022, 6:58:48 PM1/6/22
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Picked this up used and then found that it won’t work on my desired bikes. 

Rear-facing camera captures a continuous loop of video, great for helping resolve disputes about who hit whom.

Fits standard Riv-style seat posts. Also includes adapters for those super-rare airfoil ‘posts.

$45 shipped to you in the CONUS.

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Patrick Moore

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Jan 6, 2022, 7:21:49 PM1/6/22
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My first reaction was, "Neat!" and to head over to paypal. But then I wondered: how many people use cycling cameras? And how do they help or improve riding? I expect these are designed to record motor vehicle driver misbehavior; am I right?

I guiltily confess to occasionally watching YouTube channels named "Crazy Russian Roads!!!" or "Russian Roadrage!!!" with straight-from-dash video of silly driver antics, but here in the US, how many drivers, and how many riders, carry dash- or bar-or helmet-cams to record prospective clashes?

Or do people use riding cams for future ride reportage?

I'm not criticizing anything or anyone, I'm just curious why people use forward-facing or rear-facing bike cams.

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Mike Godwin

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Jan 6, 2022, 7:34:43 PM1/6/22
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Patrick

A few years ago, a few cyclists were riding up 13 from the southeast end of Berkeley, a rider's buddy got nailed by a car, and it was hit and run. So this time, the cops believed the riders that it was the driver's fault. They are useful, and fun to watch downhill racers too. 
Berkeley Cyclist Hit by Car - YouTube 2012 so more than a few years ago


Mike 4-Tuna CA

Matthew Williams

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Jan 6, 2022, 7:54:58 PM1/6/22
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I'm just curious why people use forward-facing or rear-facing bike cams.

Probably have the same reason people get dashcams: to capture and preserve evidence in the event of collisions, close calls, and harassment. 





On Jan 6, 2022, at 4:21 PM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:

My first reaction was, "Neat!" and to head over to paypal. But then I wondered: how many people use cycling cameras? And how do they help or improve riding? I expect these are designed to record motor vehicle driver misbehavior; am I right?

I guiltily confess to occasionally watching YouTube channels named "Crazy Russian Roads!!!" or "Russian Roadrage!!!" with straight-from-dash video of silly driver antics, but here in the US, how many drivers, and how many riders, carry dash- or bar-or helmet-cams to record prospective clashes?

Or do people use riding cams for future ride reportage?

I'm not criticizing anything or anyone, I'm just curious why people use forward-facing or rear-facing bike cams.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 4:58 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Picked this up used and then found that it won’t work on my desired bikes. 

Rear-facing camera captures a continuous loop of video, great for helping resolve disputes about who hit whom.

Fits standard Riv-style seat posts. Also includes adapters for those super-rare airfoil ‘posts.<image.jpeg>


$45 shipped to you in the CONUS.

--Eric Norris
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Patrick Moore

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Jan 6, 2022, 9:02:38 PM1/6/22
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After looking at the videos, I have to ask: are things really that combative out there? Or do these come from a particular milieu and population?

It has been 12 years, but I used to commute across town 15 or 16 miles each way on busy cross-town boulevards at rush hour, including night-time rush hour, and while I certainly had my share of run-ins, about which I'll say more in a bit, it never occurred to me that things were dangerous to the point of needing legal-proof records. I generally took care of such situations by yelling at the perpetrators, in the hope that they'd think more carefully in the future.

Again, I insist that I am not deprecating others' fears and wishes for camera records, or thinking that other cities are no more dangerous for cyclists than Albuquerque. I am just curious and, more, concerned. Do riders on this list encounter traffic dangers, in particular, hostile motor vehicle drivers, often enough that you want to have a photo record for possible law intervention?

In 55 years of riding in urban traffic of one sort or another*, and 33 years of riding on public roads in ABQ, NM, I've had a very few somewhat close calls, many from my own aggression, and exactly 3** accidents that prevented further riding, of which exactly 2 resulted in minor injurie; and of which exactly 3 could have been avoided by thinking a bit harder.

* Starting in a moderately sized So Indian city age 11 or 12 in 1966 or 1967 when my parents let me ride my hot-rodded Hero to the local Jesuit prep school.

** 1. Soph or jnr year in HS, 1971, coming fast downhill one morning around righthand bend on long detour to school, lost control, went onto unpaved verge, clamped front brake by mistake, flipped bike 180* to dash and dent rear wheel on obstacle. I -- in Grant-approved street clothes and of course sans helment -- was wholly uninjured. Mom picked me up.
2. Pushing pb on return of local "Tour de Dump" route in Gallup, NM, ~1994, stupidly got front wheel into cattle grate, flipped and again broke rear wheel and hurt myself; caused driver backup and spectacle (recall some laughing), was picked up by pair o' WASP hillybillys from Deliverance in primered pickup (not kidding: fleshy, jeans and t-shirts, black beards; Hispano and even more a Native American area where hillybillys were rare, so perhaps really angels in disguise. But they stopped to help and the others didn't. They were taking their Harley's valves for grinding, showed me one) for ride to hospital -- where, ironically, I was PR Director. Bruised rib or 2, sore for fortnight, boss kidded me.
3. Commuting the 15-16 miles home summer 2006 in bike lane along Indian School Road, stopped at Wyoming for red, pushed forward when light turned green, kid in car at left looked left, accelerated right and knocked me over in slow motion. Facial stitches and soreness. Bike fine.

Tom M

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Jan 7, 2022, 10:06:03 AM1/7/22
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Well, pedestrian and cyclist fatalities have gone up during the pandemic, so there's one data point.
Tom in Alexandria, VA

Craig Montgomery

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Jan 7, 2022, 3:30:40 PM1/7/22
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I keep my Lumix in the HB bag along with a special tripod that allows me to strap the camera to the stem. Rarely shoot backwards (example below).  Keeping a camera going for the rare "cyclist attacked by car" situation seems too paranoid/OCD to me but I don't live in an area of high bike/car conflict. In 45 years of touring I've been buzzed maybe 2-3 times and was shot at once in New Mexico. Some drunk kids in a pickup doing 70mph. Rear videos might be handy if you commuted in an intensely urban setting.    

To lighten the mood, short videos for touring fun stuff and beautiful places and riding buddies is a pure joy and great for the memory department. 
For the fun of it, did a search of my Flickr site for "handlebar" videos. Damn, didn't know I had so many. If you choose to, you can suffer through them. A cornucopia of hypothalamic delights. Enjoy...or not. 

14 miles from the doorstep: 

25 miles: 

The touring with buddies category is the best. Apologies for the silliness. Those of you who have lived off the bikes for days on end, esp. fully-loaded...you understand. 
Out of Tombstone, AZ 

White. Mountains along AZ/NM border: 

And nothing to do with cycling, just a final blast of Christmas Cheer: 

Craig waxing nostalgic in Tucson







Patrick Moore

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Jan 8, 2022, 5:07:32 PM1/8/22
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Lovely scenery, and I enjoyed the heavy breathing soundtrack, not to mention the singing.

Craig Montgomery

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Jan 8, 2022, 6:07:17 PM1/8/22
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Bike touring, especially in the backcountry, is truly joyful, in the purest meaning of the word. Doing an all-nighter and making it to the top of Mt. Whitney in time for the sunrise, and holding my daughter right out of the womb are comparable in my experience also. 

Craig in Tucson

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RichS

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Jan 9, 2022, 2:46:57 PM1/9/22
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Thanks for posting these Craig. I suffered through them:-)))

Happy New Year!
Rich in ATL

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