MUSAette: how small can you wad them up?

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Patrick Moore

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May 11, 2023, 2:42:06 PM5/11/23
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I like carrying a musette in my seatbags for ad hoc purchases, but my seatbags are small. Can you wad up a MUSAette into a 2'X2"X1" brick? Or smaller? Certainly no bigger.

I do have 3 sizes of Timbukt2 and any number of Ortliebs and saddlebags, but I do like to ride bikes without luggage on occasion, and on these occasions I sometimes have second thoughts.

I've been using Chuck Schmidt's VeloRetro musettes, but they're 10" X 14.5" versus 12.5" X 16" and made of thin polycotton. Pros: they wad up very small, and they have nice retro-graphics (Chuck offers custom graphics; I've had Berl Burton at speed and Reg Harris all out). Cons: size, cloth weight, they cost as much as the Riv bags: $29.50.

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Garth

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May 11, 2023, 3:08:49 PM5/11/23
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The bag you mention Patrick is looks to be made of a sturdier cotton, no good for packing, and certain not 2x2x1 !

What works and would last a while is something made of lightweight ripstop nylon, like an Apidura packable musette. At least the relatively steep $44 price includes shipping from Treefortbikes https://www.treefortbikes.com/Apidura-Packable-Musette.

or a general cycling musette search ! Some are handmade from Serbia, others don't say. The Molteni ones look way cooler than the Apidura, just from a aesthetic sense.

Jacob Byard

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May 11, 2023, 5:25:47 PM5/11/23
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I folded into roughly 4”x3.5”x2”. May can go smaller but not by much. 

I have a Sea to Summit backpack that packs down to a small size. It’s the “Ultra-Sil Daypack”. 

-Jacob

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Bill Lindsay

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May 11, 2023, 8:01:33 PM5/11/23
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For that purpose I use the freebie backpack objects that come for free with shoes.  

My small Samsonite suitcases each came with one, with the intent that you'll pack a pair of shoes in it
My last pair of Rapha shoes came with one
My last pair of Giro shoes came with one
I see them at the Japanese import store for ~ two dollars

It's a nylon drawstring bag, but there are two drawstrings and each drawstring goes to a lower corner of the bag, so you can wear it as a backpack.  If I Google "nylon string backpack" I see vendors selling them for about a buck apiece.  Amazon has a package of 16 for $22.  

The one I bought from the Japanese import store definitely packs to smaller than 2" x 2" x 1".  

Bill Lindsay
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Jason Fuller

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May 11, 2023, 8:46:35 PM5/11/23
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On this topic, I have been eyeing this one from Blue Lug - I'm still not sure if it hits your volume target but dyneema is probably the best possible material for the job. Certainly in the "will pay extra for fancy materials" category though.  
https://global.bluelug.com/fairweather-packable-sacoche-dyneema-gray.html

Patrick Moore

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May 12, 2023, 4:47:01 PM5/12/23
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Garth and Jacob: Thanks; will cross the Riv musette off my list; too bad because it looks well made from good material and its a good expanded size. Jacob: The Ultra-Sil does look very good and if this weren't meant to be shoved into the corner of a Ruthworks saddle wedge I'd buy at least one, but per the photo it doesn't fold small enough.

Bill: Good tip; thanks. I haven't bought a new pair of dress shoes in a bag since my last pair of Allen Edmonds in 1986, tho' I may be in the market for some Redwings; we'll see if they come with carry bags.

Jason: The Fairweather certainly looks like the right thing but I don't want to pay $60+ for shipped for something I'm likely to lose, that will get soiled, and that will spend most of its life smashed into a corner of a dirty seat bag.

Perhaps I'll get another VeloRetro to replace the Reg Harris one I lost. 



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Patrick Moore

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May 12, 2023, 4:47:50 PM5/12/23
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Just re-red Bill's post. Noted about shoe bags available cheap online; will look. Thanks.

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May 12, 2023, 10:15:59 PM5/12/23
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Or buy some Hexclad cookware. They come shipped in some bags that look like they could work as a musette. They fold up fairly small. 

I used to have some Rapha musette bags that they shipped free with orders. They folded up fairly small. Can’t remember where I put mine though…

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Robert Tilley
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