FS: 650b hands on wheels wheelset and Brooks Flyer

[A. D. M.]

Hello Riv folks,

I recently purchased a Wilbury (build in progress, pics to come), but unfortunately I need tubeless wheels out here in the desert. Sad because this wheelset is really nice and you know it’ll last forever as Rich built it. I digress.

These came off a demo bike so wheels have very low miles. The brake surface looks nearly NOS. The front hub is a Shimano dynamo (DH3N71). I’ve used this hub before and it’s great. Typical Shimano quality. The rear is a FH-M570S LX series hub. Rims are Velocity Synergy with rear OC. 32 spoke. Includes Col De Vie tires and tubes if you want them. I’m asking 350 and split actual shipping. 8 speed Sunrace 11-32 cassette included. 

The Brooks Flyer is also off the demo bike, so very low miles. Basically NOS. I’d like $100 shipped or I’d trade for a B17 or Colt. 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/BYBmaootvCqSBzVr8

Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks!

Best,

Aaron in El Paso

[Patrick Moore]

For thorns? Have you tried sealant in tubes? I find that OS REGULAR works almost as well in tubes at pressures over 30 psi as OS Reg or Endurance in low pressure tubeless tires; and I live where the goatheads flock and play.

My RH Elk Passes and Naches Passes are both paper thin EL models and with OS REGULAR in the tubes I often pick up goatheads and watch them rotate before breaking or falling off, yet very rarely have to patch a puncture. (You can patch tubes containing sealant if you are careful and clean.)

FWIW, I've also used sealant (by Specialized?) in tubes in 3" tires at =/< 15 psi on the Monocog 29er and that works too if you don't mind adding extra cups and pounds of sealant to already heavy tubes. It was only for the weight that I switched to "ghetto" tubeless with lots of tape (700C X 3" WTB Rangers on too-narrow 24 mm OW Alex OEM rims) and after you build up a bit of semi-dry sealant caulk around the beads it works very well.

[A. D. M.]

Hey Patrick,

Yes, tubeless for goat heads. I’ve done sealant in tubes before, but find better results with actual tubeless rims and tires. I have never had a flat I couldn’t quickly fix on tubeless set up but have been stranded with sealant in tubes. Though this was with OrangeSeal Endurance not regular. 

I’m also running a WTB Ranger 29x3.0 tubeless on a Surly Rabbithole rim (50mm). That tire is so glued to the rim it could not care less if the sealant dried up in 2020. Lots of fun. 

If anyone has a set of 650b wheels they’d be interested in trading, let me know. Fixed or 9 speed+. 

Thanks,

Aaron in El Paso

[Patrick Moore]

Aaron: small world, in features and experience if not in proximity! But note one thing I learned the hard and expensive way: OS Endurance works as well as OS Regular in fat low pressure tubeless tires; but it was almost worthless in 29 mm tires with tubes at 60 psi. But substituting OS Regular did what I described.

In any event, good luck with the sale and getting new wheels. I too much prefer tubeless off road. I said that you can patch tubes full of sealant, but it sure ain't a job you'd want to do trailside in a desert with sealant-dribbling tube and only sand on which to spread your stuff around.

My Rangers are mounted on far too narrow OEM 24mm OW Alex rims on a 2012 Monocog 29er with rear stays considerably too narrow for anything much over 55 mm, yet with age the Rangers have spread from 69 mm to (in front) 73 mm; 72 mm in back -- this at 13-15 psi; if you pump to 20 the tires expand so much that the rear is locked against the stays. The rear tire is improperly seated on the very many layers of Stan's rim tape and the runout brings the knobs to within literally 1 mm of the left chainstay, 2 mm on right. I mean to have the rear rim retaped (I leave such non-spec conversions to professionals) and the tire seated properly. One day God willing I'll replace the Monocog with a frame and wheels that allow a true 76 mm + 1 cm side clearance at all 4 stays.

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Wheels are sold. Saddle is still available. Happy Monday!

On Feb 24, 2023, at 13:40, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:



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