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Is there any doubt drop bars aren’t faster? Less drag goes a long way. A more leaned over position lets you use your big butt muscles better.Leah is up front because she’s a strong rider. Maybe she would be up fronter if she had drops.EricWith no drop bar bikes in the garage.It was a normal Monday night ride with the Kalamazoo Bicycle Club. A typical group was riding 15-16 MPH for 25 or so miles. A good bunch of people in biking regalia on their over the counter crotch rockets with drop bars, except for me and Leah Peterson on our Rivendells. with upright bars. In the lousy cell phone shot I took from the back of the group, Leah is the second white helmet from from the front left. Notice her posture compared to the body position of all the riders on their drop bars.It was that way the whole ride. Most club riders assume their drop bars make them faster, after all, EVERYBODY uses them right?Marc
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On Jul 26, 2022, at 8:44 AM, Garth <gart...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jul 26, 2022, at 3:46 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, of course everyone should ride what they prefer to ride. Just Ride, and all that jazz, and love your bike and stuff.
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On Jul 26, 2022, at 11:23 PM, Max S <msh...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think that's just part of the design intent for the bike, and the reason the drop bar is such a persistent design element. I think that on a properly set-up road bike, I should have at least 3 positions: 1) Chillin', 2) Groovin', and 3) Jammin' – tops, hoods, and drops, respectively. When I'm "Chillin'", I want to be comfortable, and my position may not be all that different than when I'm riding my commuter bike with swept-back bars.
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On Jul 28, 2022, at 7:08 PM, George Schick <bhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
"....But to your point, who here has ridden both types of bikes and can honestly say which is faster? Maybe it *is* the drop-bar, short wheel based bike, but I’ve never ridden one, so I can’t say..." Well I, for one, have and continue to ride both types of bikes and have no reason to negative either one; they both have their legitimate purposes. But if you want to say that one is either just as good or superior to the other then I have to stop and shake my head a bit. Again, as I replied to Bernard, what's the point? If you can ride with the "roadies" as you call them and keep up with them, fine. But does that make your upright bars and long wheelbase superior to theirs? I hardly think so - it's all a matter or riding position and what it does (or is doing) to your anatomy. It could make no difference or it could be harmful in the long run. After all, even Grant has said that certain bikes aren't intended to be use in club rides. And you can, if you wish, employ Grant's "maybe so, maybe not" rhetoric about one versus the other, but it makes one wonder why he bothered to include that "Raise Dat Stem" (which was aimed at both people who ride at too high a position and what it does to various leg muscles versus those who ride at way too low a position (think excessively low drop bars)) in one of his Readers. Have you read it?? And to Joe's late arriving comment, yeah you have proved you can do it, but once again, what's the point? I can see that I'm creeping closer to the crotchety Steve Placinar commentary level so I'll cease and desist. Meanwhile, ya'll have a great time on your rides and enjoy the company of those who differ a bit.
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.... Consider instead what Nick Payne so clearly underscores in his very accurate post above about the multi-position availability that the road bars offer a cyclist that upright or flat bars simply cannot.
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It was a normal Monday night ride with the Kalamazoo Bicycle Club. A typical group was riding 15-16 MPH for 25 or so miles. A good bunch of people in biking regalia on their over the counter crotch rockets with drop bars, except for me and Leah Peterson on our Rivendells. with upright bars. In the lousy cell phone shot I took from the back of the group, Leah is the second white helmet from from the front left. Notice her posture compared to the body position of all the riders on their drop bars.It was that way the whole ride. Most club riders assume their drop bars make them faster, after all, EVERYBODY uses them right?Marc
Eric,The point is that riders don't use that position. Even against the wind, only one with drop bars actually got into the lower position. They all stayed up on the hoods or the flats the whole ride.MarcOn Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 7:38:12 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:Is there any doubt drop bars aren’t faster? Less drag goes a long way. A more leaned over position lets you use your big butt muscles better.Leah is up front because she’s a strong rider. Maybe she would be up fronter if she had drops.EricWith no drop bar bikes in the garage.
It was a normal Monday night ride with the Kalamazoo Bicycle Club. A typical group was riding 15-16 MPH for 25 or so miles. A good bunch of people in biking regalia on their over the counter crotch rockets with drop bars, except for me and Leah Peterson on our Rivendells. with upright bars. In the lousy cell phone shot I took from the back of the group, Leah is the second white helmet from from the front left. Notice her posture compared to the body position of all the riders on their drop bars.It was that way the whole ride. Most club riders assume their drop bars make them faster, after all, EVERYBODY uses them right?Marc
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