On Aug 5, 2023, at 10:56 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
It nearly kills me to say it, but my older son will be heading to college in a year. Freshman aren’t to bring cars to campus, so that leaves buses, bikes, and your own two feet for transportation. My boys have grown up riding Clem Hs; this son rides a 52 cm cast-off from my husband (who doesn’t ride, sigh).
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On Aug 5, 2023, at 19:56, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
It nearly kills me to say it, but my older son will be heading to college in a year. Freshman aren’t to bring cars to campus, so that leaves buses, bikes, and your own two feet for transportation. My boys have grown up riding Clem Hs; this son rides a 52 cm cast-off from my husband (who doesn’t ride, sigh).
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On Aug 6, 2023, at 9:35 AM, Johnny Alien <johnny....@gmail.com> wrote:
I know nothing about college theft BUT if he is relying on bus transportation as well I am 99.9% positive that a Clem that size won't work with their racks. If thats the case then more often than not the bike won't get used. Side note...judging by photos the 59 Clem looks like a really good fit. Side, side note...congrats to both you and your kid!!
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On Aug 6, 2023, at 6:50 AM, Mike Davis <jmda...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Aug 6, 2023, at 12:50 PM, Ryan <ryte...@mts.net> wrote:
What others have said....
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It nearly kills me to say it, but my older son will be heading to college in a year. Freshman aren’t to bring cars to campus, so that leaves buses, bikes, and your own two feet for transportation. My boys have grown up riding Clem Hs; this son rides a 52 cm cast-off from my husband (who doesn’t ride, sigh).My 6’3” Dad had a blue 59 cm Clem on order when he died suddenly in 2020, and his blue Clem has sat, boxed, waiting for my boy to grow into it. I lugged the gargantuan box up from the basement last week to see how if the bike would fit. “Now that I’ve obtained optimal height,” my son is fond of saying…Anyway, he’s 6’1” now (likely still growing) and I need him to decide if he wants to stick with his old Clem H (that he was fond of) or settle into this Clem L. Because whichever bike he chooses is getting new wheels, dyno and fenders and going to college with him. At first he was opposed to the idea of a new Clem; he liked his old Clem, thought it looked cool. But after the - as he calls it - Big Bike was assembled, he really began to like it. “It looks elegant,” he said. It really does, all long and lithe, in blue and silver. He put his saddle and bags on the bike and we test rode it tonight. He said, “I am really liking the Big Bike. I like that my knees don’t have anything to hit (geez, were his knees hitting his bars?!) and it looks elegant. It feels more at home now that I have my old saddle on it.”I have mixed feelings about sending him to college with this bike, because it’s so nice. I also doubt he’ll be able to get it on a bus bike rack - and I have no idea how often he will want to do that. His bike life is totally unknown at this point. All I know is that I’m getting him dyno because the kid has never remembered to charge a light in his LIFE and I will not sleep at night without it.The 52 takes 650b wheels and the 59 takes 700c, so I don’t want to buy the wheels until I know which bike he really wants. But as of now, he wants his new bike.I know people will say we should just get a beater. I know why that would be advisable, but I also hate to think of a Clem languishing when it could be serving a noble purpose. I’d love for him and his Clem to journey through undergrad together.I am wondering…has anyone gone to college or sent their kid to college with a Clem? What do you have to say about it? Photos in the next post…Leah
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On Aug 7, 2023, at 18:09, christian poppell <smo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Whenever I lock a Rivendell to a rack, I lock the heck out of it. I’m talking three U locks and a thick cable lock. It’s a pain, you have to find the right kind of rack to accommodate all the locks, and it means carrying an extra weight. The additional few seconds a thief would have to spend dealing with the locks might be enough deterrent.
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@Piaw -I lived on Sladky Avenue between Springer and Fordham Way to be more specific.Kim Hetzel.--On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 8:42:37 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:I'm 2 long blocks from Cuesta Drive. I'm pretty sure if this happened in MTV or Sunnyvale the police wouldn't be unresponsive. I have no idea why Oakland and San Francisco don't consider a holdup at gunpoint worth getting a search warrant over.On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 7:17 PM Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote:@Piaw -Oh my goodness ! How terrible that is being forced at gunpoint to hand over your bicycle and being left stranded. Unbelievable. I am glad I do not live there anymore. I moved away decades ago not too far from you, near Cuesta Drive in Mountain View, California.Kim HetzelYelm, WA.On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 4:33:43 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:Whenever I lock a Rivendell to a rack, I lock the heck out of it. I’m talking three U locks and a thick cable lock. It’s a pain, you have to find the right kind of rack to accommodate all the locks, and it means carrying an extra weight. The additional few seconds a thief would have to spend dealing with the locks might be enough deterrent.If I had to carry 3 U-locks and thick cable locks, why not just ride a heavy cheap used clunker? I remember someone once suggested the theorum that all bicycles + locks weigh the same (the light bike had to have a heavier lock). I once rode my Heron Touring bike in New Hampshire where I met cycling author Marty Basch. He and I walked into a restaurant for lunch, leaving our expedition-style loaded touring bikes in front of the restaurant unlocked. After a 2 hour lunch we walked back out and he looked at our bikes and said: "Darn. The bikes are still there. I guess we have to keep riding." (https://blog.piaw.net/2009/06/new-england-2000-bike-trip.html)I take the approach that if I have to worry that much about my bike being stolen, I should start to worry about my personal safety as well. Here in the Bay Area there have been stories of bicyclists riding their bikes being forced to hand over their bikes at gunpoint and left stranded in the hills: https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/06/23/crime/oakland-bikejacking-bike-robberies/--
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The 1x1 isn’t made any more, and they hold their value really well as they seem to be coming somewhat collectible. The replacement is the Lowside, I think it’s about $890 for the frame set. Not really a value play anymore.
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I agree with Mackenzie’s point about swoopy top tube bikes not being taken seriously by most folks - regardless of whether or not they are “bike folks”. I
What others have said....BUT a Clem could go to college if...in an ideal worldIf he's living on-campus they're not going to fuss if he brings it inside his room at night to avoid leaving it locked up outside and creating ample opportrunity for theft...and maybe don't take the Clem bar-hoppingIf the college is car-free maybe they have some sort of infrastructure set up for secure bike locking on campus...maybe there's some student-driven bike valet system...or your son could find like-minded folks on-campus to initiate something like that for secure lockup at the library or class buildings. Where I live in Winnipeg, the University of Winnipeg even has indoor locking facilities for a fee...but it's a downtown campus with a small footprint; you can easily hoof it from class to class. A large state campus, I imagine, not so muchIn the absence of things like this , I'm afraid , a stealth beater that's actually fun to ride is the way to goOn Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 11:27:14 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:I'm going to join the majority and say don't send the Clem to college. IF* your boy needs a bike at school, buy a cheap hybrid, new or used. Bike shops are desperate to sell anything right now, and the used market is also oversaturated.*It's been a long time since I was at college, but even as a bike loving kid, I didn't ride my bike to classes. Too much hassle, too much risk. It was easier to navigate crowded campus paths by walking, even though I had one or two bikes tucked into my tiny dorm room.
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On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 10:56 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:It nearly kills me to say it, but my older son will be heading to college in a year. Freshman aren’t to bring cars to campus, so that leaves buses, bikes, and your own two feet for transportation. My boys have grown up riding Clem Hs; this son rides a 52 cm cast-off from my husband (who doesn’t ride, sigh).My 6’3” Dad had a blue 59 cm Clem on order when he died suddenly in 2020, and his blue Clem has sat, boxed, waiting for my boy to grow into it. I lugged the gargantuan box up from the basement last week to see how if the bike would fit. “Now that I’ve obtained optimal height,” my son is fond of saying…Anyway, he’s 6’1” now (likely still growing) and I need him to decide if he wants to stick with his old Clem H (that he was fond of) or settle into this Clem L. Because whichever bike he chooses is getting new wheels, dyno and fenders and going to college with him. At first he was opposed to the idea of a new Clem; he liked his old Clem, thought it looked cool. But after the - as he calls it - Big Bike was assembled, he really began to like it. “It looks elegant,” he said. It really does, all long and lithe, in blue and silver. He put his saddle and bags on the bike and we test rode it tonight. He said, “I am really liking the Big Bike. I like that my knees don’t have anything to hit (geez, were his knees hitting his bars?!) and it looks elegant. It feels more at home now that I have my old saddle on it.”I have mixed feelings about sending him to college with this bike, because it’s so nice. I also doubt he’ll be able to get it on a bus bike rack - and I have no idea how often he will want to do that. His bike life is totally unknown at this point. All I know is that I’m getting him dyno because the kid has never remembered to charge a light in his LIFE and I will not sleep at night without it.The 52 takes 650b wheels and the 59 takes 700c, so I don’t want to buy the wheels until I know which bike he really wants. But as of now, he wants his new bike.I know people will say we should just get a beater. I know why that would be advisable, but I also hate to think of a Clem languishing when it could be serving a noble purpose. I’d love for him and his Clem to journey through undergrad together.I am wondering…has anyone gone to college or sent their kid to college with a Clem? What do you have to say about it? Photos in the next post…Leah--
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On Aug 14, 2023, at 9:52 PM, 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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