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Hi Joey - I’m in NYC and have a 51 Appaloosa that I’d consider selling. Contact me off list if you’d like to discuss. 

On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 7:49 AM <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
JAS <swanso...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 09:07PM -0700

RoscoBubbe frame 55cm purple
$1500
Portland, OR
 
On Thursday, June 19, 2025 at 12:15:33 PM UTC-7 Jamie D. wrote:
 
JAS <swanso...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 09:09PM -0700

Homer 51cm
$3600
Victoria, BC
https://victoria.craigslist.org/bik/d/oak-bay-south-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7853306735.html
On Thursday, June 26, 2025 at 9:07:45 PM UTC-7 JAS wrote:
 
JAS <swanso...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 09:10PM -0700

Sorry...I forgot the link for the Rosco.
 
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-rosco-platypus-frame/7855420559.html
On Thursday, June 26, 2025 at 9:09:08 PM UTC-7 JAS wrote:
 
JAS <swanso...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 09:12PM -0700

Heron, 55cm (Waterford)
$960
Seattle, WA
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-55cm-heron-touring-bicycle/7856632617.html
 
 
On Thursday, June 26, 2025 at 9:10:07 PM UTC-7 JAS wrote:
 
Andy Beichler <andybe...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 09:26AM -0700

I have been thinking about my accumulation of stuff over the years. This
has happened in multiple areas of my life. One thing I am considering to
get a handle on this is changing my approach to clothing. I am, by no
means, a clothes horse but I have collected way more than I need. I would
like to start buying fewer clothes and focus my purchases on high quality
clothing that lasts a long time and which are made from natural materials
(though I know that including some man materials in fabric can extend it's
life time).
 
For those of you who have purchased clothing from Rivendell, how would you
rate the quality? What other brands are out there that are high quality
and will last a long time?
 
Thanks,
Andy
Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 09:37AM -0700

I'm in a similar boat: wanting to pare down my wardrobe to fewer items that
I want to own. I'm in the process of upgrading my denim, and I've done
three experimental purchases with Gustin. I expect them to be extremely
long wearing garments. I bought a $180 work shirt and two pairs of
$150-$190 jeans. Another phase of my paring down will be to buy 3 or 4
nice dress shirts and get rid of 10. Buy 2 or 3 very good sweaters and get
rid of a dozen. Those kinds of things.
 
I own two pairs of MUSA knickers, and I consider them very long wearing.
They are probably both over 10 years old, and I imagine the sources of
fabric can migrate over the years. I've got two or three MUSA wool shirts,
and those hold up nicely as well. None of my MUSA clothing is tagged for
my wardrobe reduction project.
 
Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
 
On Thursday, June 26, 2025 at 9:26:47 AM UTC-7 Andy Beichler wrote:
 
Jim M. <math...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 10:38AM -0700

I've always found MUSA to be very high quality and long lasting but the
selection is pretty limited now. I understand the constraints, but I really
liked the seersucker, railroad, and Japanese cotton shirts. Seersucker and
railroad shirts were worn until they fell apart, but it took at least 10
years of regular wear before that happened. I wear the Japanese cotton
shirts to work, so they don't get as much wear. I also have a sturdy work
shirt (moleskin?) that will last forever. I still wear the first pair of
knickers I bought from them, which must be at least 15 years old. Even the
t-shirts last a good long time. The one item I've had short wear with is
the wool boxer briefs, which aren't MUSA. It never took much regular riding
to wear a hole in them.
 
jim
walnut creek
 
On Thursday, June 26, 2025 at 9:37:09 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
 
Cyclofiend Jim <cyclo...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 12:00PM -0700

The MUSA gear has always been solid.
Off the top of my head, I've had the shorts and knickers, seersucker,
original hoodie, and railroad shirt.
The original grey knickers had a lot of hours on them, and were starting to
thin a bit at the saddle contact points, but had plenty of miles left (sold
to a list member). The shorts may have had some noticeable wear before I
moved those along. I've patched and repatched the hoodie (and WISH I could
buy a replacement). I caught the corner of the seersucker on a drawer
handle and tore it, but have patched that and it continues to be
indestructible.
I keep wearing the railroad shirt out on the boat and working in the yard
and it still looks fine.
 
Have no qualms with the investment in any one of those items.
 
J
On Thursday, June 26, 2025 at 9:26:47 AM UTC-7 Andy Beichler wrote:
 
Brian McDermott <brianmark...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 07:26PM -0700

I have an old Russian sailor MUSA wool shirt I love, and I have a pair of
Ranger green pants from a couple of years ago that are fantastic quality
and fit. I mostly wear black pants so when they came back in stock a few
months ago, I bought two pair, and I actually have complaints about this
round. The green ones are medium and fit perfectly. These two pairs are
also medium, and they seem to have taken in the leg opening a bit which I
like as it gives them a slimmer shape, but the waist is way tighter than my
green ones. Also the material is nowhere near as moisture-wicking in the
rain as the green ones.
On Thursday, June 26, 2025 at 12:26:47 PM UTC-4 Andy Beichler wrote:
 
Eric White <eric.j...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 08:54PM -0500

I would be willing to part with these cranks for the same $125 (plus
shipping) I paid for them a little while back. They've just been sitting on
my shelf. 44-34-24 rings and 178mm crank arms. The middle ring is an Origin
8 ring.
 
Eric in Madison, WI
 
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Toshi Takeuchi <tto...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 06:10PM -0700

Hi Jason,
 
Apparently ridership and interest is way down on endurance events. The
Terrible Two used to be sold out with 285 riders, but now can get maybe 150
after reducing the difficulty and time limits/challenges to appeal to the
older riding population like me. The Santa Rosa Wine Country century was
previously always sold out far in advance, but now is having trouble
getting enough people to ride.
 
For me, there is something therapeutic/meditative to riding for hours and
hours. Of course, there's the aspect of taking up a new challenge to test
your limits, which I also find appealing.
 
If you can do a 200k, then you can do a 300k, and then a 400k, and then a
600k etc. I suppose much of the fun (especially while figuring things out)
is of the type 2 sort--meaning, "Boy that sucked while I did it, but now
that I finished it, it feels great!"
 
If you decide to try a 300k, then the SFR Healdsburg 300k is a good one to
ride. Let me know, as it would be fun to get a couple of Rivs to ride
together there.
 
Toshi
 
 
Jonah I <jpise...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 09:32AM -0700

Hi all,
 
Little parts bin clear out to fund a new saddle- located in Berkeley, local
sale always preferable but happy to ship at cost:
 
*Cranks*:
Silver 173mm (lightly used) - $100 plus shipping
Spa Cycles XD (triple, new) - $30 plus shipping
 
*Stem:*
Nitto FW30 power stem, 80mm (lightly used) -$50 plus shipping
 
*Saddles:*
Brooks flyer (broken in) - $50 plus shipping
Steve Potts Chinook Brown (brand new in packaging) - $30 plus shipping
 
*Bag:*
Sackville ShopSack, Large - used for around 4 months. $50 plus shipping
 
*Seatpost:*
MSW zero setback, installed and used for a few miles - $20 plus shipping
 
Find pics here:
 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AuXcj-svJgsPrFobDtubabOoh6sRwfWv?dmr=1&ec=wgc-drive-globalnav-goto
Jonah I <jpise...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 09:36AM -0700

Important details: the Spa Cycles cranks are 160mm
 
On Thursday, June 26, 2025 at 9:32:11 AM UTC-7 Jonah I wrote:
 
Jonah Isenstein <jpise...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 09:55AM -0700

Shopsack and Spa Cycles cranks pending
 
Jonah Isenstein <jpise...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 12:45PM -0700

Update: Stem, Shopsack, spa cycles crank sold!
 
On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 9:55 AM Jonah Isenstein <jpise...@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
Dan Sullivan <pjss...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 12:35PM -0700

My one and only experience with Blue Lug (in May of this year) was I placed
my order, sat back expecting to get bars in a couple weeks, and be shocked
to see them arrive in just a few days. Like someone else said, faster than
many items arrive that originated in the US.
 
Dan S
a small town near Madison, WI
 
On Wednesday, June 25, 2025 at 3:51:52 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
 
Michael Moore, Jr. <freefo...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 12:29PM -0700

A friend and I planned a warm weather three day summer tour in Eastern
Oregon along the Old West Scenic Bikewa
<https://traveloregon.com/things-to-do/outdoor-recreation/bicycling/old-west-scenic-bikeway/>y.
Luckily we had gear for the rain and hail that we experienced at the start
of the trip! The Bleroit performed beautifully given that I had to add more
gear than originally planned for.
 
 
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--
Michael Moore, Jr.
Arcata, CA
 
Joseph Kolker <jrko...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 09:42AM -0700

Hi all,
 
Probably a long shot, but if/when anyone in the Northeast next wants to
sell a 50-51cm-ish Atlantis or Joe bike or frame, please let me know. (I'm
about 5'8, with PBH somewhere between 82-83). I'm just outside NYC and
could easily come pick up in NY, NJ, Philly, CT, etc. Would rather not deal
with a shipped bike transaction.
 
I'm the happy owner of an upright Roadini, which is perfect for the main
paved trail I ride regularly (Empire State Trail), but looking for
something stouter, longer, with wider tire clearance, and with more
carrying capacity for the main dirt trail I ride (Old Croton Aqueduct,
which I can also ride to store, farmer's market, etc.).
 
I'm looking at Atlantis/Joe because I think a Clem-type bike would be too
hard to fit in my home and is probably overkill. Right now for riding on
the OCA I am using my attempt at a rivved-up Trek Dual Sport, which has
been a kind of comical/fun process, but unsurprisingly given the frame it
is very much not the same.
 
I have considered also just maxing out the tire width on a Homer/Sam/Plat
instead, which would probably work fine (comrade Bike Snob has posted about
riding his Homer/Plats on this same trail) and has the advantage of those
bikes being currently available (or about to be), but because I think I'm
just going to end up wanting an Atlantis or Joe eventually, trying to be
"responsible" and get one of those bikes one step further removed along the
spectrum from the Roadini for now.
 
Joey
Cyclofiend Jim <cyclo...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 08:53AM -0700

Hey all -
 
As we are enjoying the longer days of summer and renewed enthusiasm with
riding, I just wanted to remind everyone of the possibility of nefarious
intent during transactions. I just removed a couple of individuals who were
peppering responses to a few of your "want to buy/trade" posts. These got
caught in the moderation queue, but many times these emails go directly to
your inbox - in other words, outside of any moderation on this list.
 
As a reminder:
There have been some instances of non-group members emailing members who
have posted "wanting to buy" or "want to trade" listings. These emails
often have very good descriptions and contain very believable photos.
 
They have largely been scam attempts. Other group members have recognized
images that were theirs or belonged to riding partners. These are
believable attempts and through the excitement of saving a few bucks or
getting a model which is currently unavailable, it would be very easy to
fall for the scam. And we do not fall for scams because we are stupid. We
fall for scams because we are human.
 
This is reason I have tightened the bottleneck for new members posting "For
Sale" items. If you haven't been an active member in any discussion, and
your first post is a "For Sale" listing, it will not be passed through. (I
changed the group description to reflect that. And if you are a new member
who wants to post some items for sale, I'm happy to be convinced that you
are completely legit. Reach out and let's talk).
 
At this point, I am advising anyone who is approached via email to:
- Search the other person's email in the group archives, to see if they
have a track record of posting. If they have no posts, it's likely a scam.
- Search their email in the group member section, to see if they are
actually a member. If they are not a member, it's likely a scam.
 
If you do choose to proceed with any transaction, you do so at entirely
your risk. Due diligence and paying with a protected method are always good
practice.
 
And, yes, I do realize that there are a number of folks who have lurked on
this list for a number of years and may not have ever posted. So, the above
method is not foolproof. The vast majority of folks in this group are solid
citizens who act in good faith. I don't want to lose site of that.
 
Thanks for your contributions to this group.
 
Jim / List Admin
Steven Seelig <hal....@verizon.net>: Jun 26 05:21AM -0700

I have them on my gravelly Sam build and will never go back. I think in
this case the Rivendell folks have a rather romantic vision of builds being
non-canto-posted needing to have a side pull brake, for whatever reason. I
also have the racers on my titanium Spectrum road bike.
 
They are correct, getting the darn things set up properly can be a daunting
and frustrating process. Is the tension right on both sides? Where does
the pad line up? Do I have the right wrench with me to adjust, if need be?
But the reality is that once they are set up, they are set up and I have
virtually never been required to do any adjustments except perhaps when I
need to change brake pads.
 
I will say also that you have to find the correct manner in which to hang
the cable. I have a Chunky Monkey Paul thing for the front and this hanger
in the back. I also use those things that permit a bit more cable movement
for the hanging cable because they work and they are purple. I don't like
the stock hangers so much.
 
Steve Seelig, Washington, DC
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Shoji Takahashi <shoji.t...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 07:02AM -0700

Hi Lucia,
I have Paul centerpulls on my AHH (Toyo build). I recommend them over the
long-reach Tektros, which I had originally, as the Paul's have much better
stopping power.
 
I agree with Steve on setup. You will need hangers, and setup is different
from sidepulls. After setup, I haven't touched them except to change brake
pads. I use the Paul Moon Unit straddle hanger which are soft metal, so
wrenching them requires care.
 
Good luck!
shoji
Arlington MA
 
On Thursday, June 26, 2025 at 8:21:16 AM UTC-4 Steven Seelig wrote:
 
I have them on my gravelly Sam build and will never go back. I think in
this case the Rivendell folks have a rather romantic vision of builds being
non-canto-posted needing to have a side pull brake, for whatever reason. I
also have the racers on my titanium Spectrum road bike.
 
They are correct, getting the darn things set up properly can be a daunting
and frustrating process. Is the tension right on both sides? Where does
the pad line up? Do I have the right wrench with me to adjust, if need be?
But the reality is that once they are set up, they are set up and I have
virtually never been required to do any adjustments except perhaps when I
need to change brake pads.
 
I will say also that you have to find the correct manner in which to hang
the cable. I have a Chunky Monkey Paul thing for the front and this hanger
in the back. I also use those things that permit a bit more cable movement
for the hanging cable because they work and they are purple. I don't like
the stock hangers so much.
 
Steve Seelig, Washington, DC
[image: IMG_1051.jpeg]
On Wednesday, June 25, 2025 at 12:31:54 PM UTC-4 gds...@gmail.com wrote:
 
I've got them on my Romulus and they are first class. Very smooth and
progressive. I cannot, however, fit the 40c tires I'm using between the
pads (with the cable released) without deflating them. Otherwise they are
top notch
 
G
 
On Wed, Jun 25, 2025, 10:04 AM Bernard Duhon <ber...@bernardduhon.com>
wrote:
 
 
 
I purchased the Paul center pool breaks, mostly for the made in USA vibe
I use them on a 650 B conversion. They did not have the reach needed (80mm
) so I used extended reach brake shoes .
They work fine. Ecellent stopping & modulation.
 
I'm not the world's best bike mechanic. It took me a while to get them
working properly but I blame myself not the brakes.
There are a fair number of YouTube videos that help you With the set up
 

 

 

 

 

 
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*Subject:* [RBW] Paul Centerpull Brakes for A Homer Hilsen

Hey Folks,
RBW "newbie" here. Building up my very first AHH, and cannot wait.
I have currently spec'd Tectronics side pulls. I know they are inexpensive
and probably work well, HOWEVER I am a Paul Components fan, and considering
putting on Paul Centerpull Racer brakes. Does anyone have a perspective?
When I was speaking to Riv about the build, they talked me against them,
since they were harder to set up, but knowing me, I like the tried and
true, made in USA and feel like they match my "quality" and aesthetic
values. I'd probably switch them out to Paul's eventually anyways.
LMK if anyone has perspective and experience with these brakes. Have used
Motos in the past (90's). :)
 
Thanks!
Lucia
 
 
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Lucia Matioli <lucia....@gmail.com>: Jun 26 08:00AM -0700

Thanks so much everyone!
I’ve upgraded / respect’s based on y’all’s input.
Excited to see it all come together.
Also, props on the cable hangers with added flair. I’m adding black hearts
from jubilee manufacturing to hold mine in place.
 
Separately, does anyone know if Rivendell owners do rides based on regions?
I’m building up my riding community and think it would be great to get
together and ride. I’m in the east bay, ca.
 
Thanks everyone!
Lucia
 
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On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 7:02 AM Shoji Takahashi <shoji.t...@gmail.com>
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Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <martin...@gmail.com>: Jun 26 05:48AM -0700

The XT I have is an M-730 ALPINE. I'll give it a go. And I do have a 20t
chainwheel I've been wanting to use, so good to know that might work.
Thanks all!
 
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