Re: [RBW] Digest for rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - 20 updates in 8 topics

273 views
Skip to first unread message

Tom Horton

unread,
Nov 6, 2023, 6:47:53 AM11/6/23
to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
Re rack  i have been using a swagman with the largest clem and platy and it works well
It is more affordable than 1up  likely not as good but all i have needed

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 5, 2023, at 8:49 AM, rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com wrote:


SallyG <3mu...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 12:35PM -0700

Hi all!
Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50 cm
for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
Sally
Johnny Alien <johnny....@gmail.com>: Nov 04 01:44PM -0700

For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation. Best
product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.
 
On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
 
3mu...@gmail.com: Nov 04 02:00PM -0700

Thanks Johnny! Subaru XTrek 2 inch hitch.
 
Sent from my iPhone
 
On Nov 4, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Johnny Alien <johnny....@gmail.com> wrote:
 
For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation. Best product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.
 
On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
 
Hi all!
 
Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50 cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
 
Sally
 
--
 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
 
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
 
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/4e0de1c2-316a-451e-bd54-99dc0a2b54dfn%40googlegroups.com.
Ted W <ted.l...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 05:53PM -0400

Highly recommend the Kuat NV2 or 1UP as previously recommended. I have the
NV2 and it’s the best rack I’ve ever owned. Can easily carry any bike I
have. The only one that pushes the limits a bit is my Gus, I wouldn’t want
to try anything longer. The only reason I didn’t get the 1UP was due to
availability at the time.
 
Sally Bidleman <3mu...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 04:29PM -0700

Thanks, Ted! I just checked our local bike shop and, while they don't have
1UP, they can bring a Kuat NV2 down the grade from their warehouse in a
couple days for us to try. Very excited to expand our biking radius, albeit
(partially) by auto! Now, if I can only locate a Jakob Ingebrigtsen running
cap for my son's birthday, I'll be 2 for 2 today, ha.
 
Appreciate this group!!
 
Brian Turner <brok...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 07:50PM -0400

I share Ted's praise of the Küat NV2.0. Mine has been one of the best bike investments I've made. It fits my 50” wheelbase medium Gus no problem, although it pushes it to its absolute maxium. When they say 50” is the max. wheelbase, they mean it.
 
1Up makes a very fine rack, but if your bike has fenders, or if you think you'll want to carry a friend's bike who has fenders, you may want to consider the Küat over the 1Up. Reason being, the Küat swing arm will still securely hold the front wheel as long as you get it as close to the front edge of the fender as possible. Unlike the 1Up, there's no rear swing arm on the Küat to clamp down on (and potentially deform) your rear fender. My Küat has carried multiple fendered bikes thousands of miles on long road trips with no issues whatsoever.
 
On Nov 4, 2023, at 7:29 PM, Sally Bidleman <3mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
 

 
Thanks, Ted! I just checked our local bike shop and, while they don't have 1UP, they can bring a Kuat NV2 down the grade from their warehouse in a couple days for us to try. Very excited to expand our biking radius, albeit (partially) by auto! Now, if I can only locate a Jakob Ingebrigtsen running cap for my son's birthday, I'll be 2 for 2 today, ha.
 
Appreciate this group!!
 
On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 2:53 PM Ted W <ted.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Highly recommend the Kuat NV2 or 1UP as previously recommended. I have the NV2 and it's the best rack I've ever owned. Can easily carry any bike I have. The only one that pushes the limits a bit is my Gus, I wouldn't want to try anything longer. The only reason I didn't get the 1UP was due to availability at the time.
 
On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 5:00 PM <3mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Thanks Johnny! Subaru XTrek 2 inch hitch.
 
Sent from my iPhone
 
On Nov 4, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Johnny Alien <johnny....@gmail.com> wrote:
 
For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation. Best product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.
 
On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
 
Hi all!
 
Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50 cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
 
Sally
 
--
 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
 
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
 
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/4e0de1c2-316a-451e-bd54-99dc0a2b54dfn%40googlegroups.com.
 
--
 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
 
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
 
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/84631D7A-9CE1-4B65-BFDB-D2190BF1A880%40gmail.com.
 
--
 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
 
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
 
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CANCvShpbynfsM%3D9hhQ0zFVh%2BBcF%3D9yrQc6RMumha-mWuMzsq7w%40mail.gmail.com.
 
--
 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
 
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
 
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CABey9MXeqz9j1rmHpOia%3DusnMSFCRY4npJAUDPVsN6H_Zn9UNw%40mail.gmail.com.
Sally Bidleman <3mu...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 05:01PM -0700

Hi Brian,
 
Great info, especially re: the fenders! I have fenders on my Clem and just
ordered some for my husband's incoming Platypus.
 
Thanks much!
 
"peec...@yahoo.com" <peec...@yahoo.com>: Nov 05 04:09AM -0800

The Hollywood bike carrier accomodates wider tires, longer wheelbases and
fenders. Fairly low price. well made. I have been pleased with it for the
2 years I have been using it.
 
On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 7:01:51 PM UTC-5 SallyG wrote:
 
Johnny Alien <johnny....@gmail.com>: Nov 05 04:54AM -0800

1UP does sell Fender Cushions as an accessory to add on.
 
https://1up-usa.com/product/fender-cushion
 
Jason Fuller <jtf.f...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 07:26PM -0700

This year's foliage has been particularly great owing to the sudden cold
snap a couple weeks ago. From today's adventure - I have many more photos
of the foliage but I think the size of this thread is stopping me from
being able to share more
 
[image: PXL_20231104_220015824.jpg]
 
On Thursday, 5 October 2023 at 12:34:53 UTC-7 DavidP wrote:
 
jaredwilson <duh...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 05:21PM -0700

Bump, all still available :)
 
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:29:27 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:
 
Greg J <greg...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 02:45PM -0700

That seat stay cap was used across various models - I don't know if it is a
Riv-sourced custom piece - but it doesn't have anything to do with
Waterford (nor is it intended to be a "W" - just a decoration.
 
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:51:23 PM UTC-7 Hetchins52 wrote:
 
Brian Turner <brok...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 07:40PM -0400

Correct. I've seen the “w” caps on Toyo and Waterford Rivs alike.
 
On Nov 4, 2023, at 5:45 PM, Greg J <greg...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
That seat stay cap was used across various models - I don't know if it is a Riv-sourced custom piece - but it doesn't have anything to do with Waterford (nor is it intended to be a "W" - just a decoration.
 
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:51:23 PM UTC-7 Hetchins52 wrote:
 
Here's mine. A Toyo by its serial number and Frank's pics. You can see one of the third water bottle mounts at the top in the photo.
 
Year? I don't know. I bought the frameset third-hand, six years ago, and thought it might be 2009 using some of the info on CycloFiend.
 
David
 
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 2:47:51 PM UTC-7 frank_a wrote:
 
7052F7D8-A7C3-40E9-BF7D-7549C10B03C0.jpeg C25083FA-4E17-4971-90D1-18B4084AC777.jpeg
 
The serial number will tell you if it's a Toyo or Waterford built frame.
 
Toyo serial numbers are large and run across the bb shell while the Waterford numbers are smaller and are oriented around the shell, parallel to the outer edge. One photo is a Saluki and the other photo is a Waterford built Rosco.
 
The Toyo Atlantis' read: AT0001 and so on, Homer: AH0001
 
SA0026 - the 26th Saluki
 
- Frank
 
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:26:35 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
 
I looked on Cyclofiend and where they were visible, the Atlantises all appeared to have the W. It may not be related to Waterford after all.
 
Laing
 
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 10:48:29 AM UTC-4 Danny wrote:
 
The early Atlantis brochures show the W on the seat stay cap with Toyo being the only listed builder in the brochures. My Riv knowledge is not very deep, so perhaps Waterford was building the Atlantis as well at that time? or Riv was buying the seat stay caps from them?
 
Atlantis 2001 brochure
 
Atlantis 2002 brochure
 
Screen Shot 2022-09-02 at 9.15.04 AM Medium.jpeg
 
Screen Shot 2022-09-02 at 9.36.37 AM Medium.jpeg
 
-Danny
 
On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 7:41 AM Bill Schairer <comm...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
In general, is one not able to tell from the serial number?
 
Bill S
 
San Diego
 
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 11:50:12 AM UTC-7 RichS wrote:
 
That is a first class detail. Don't believe it was on my formerly owned 2014 Waterford Atlantis so perhaps the W was featured on certain models? I am fond of concave seat stay caps though. Happy that they're on my Sam.
 
Best,
 
Rich in ATL
 
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 1:06 PM, JJ <junes...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Laing, thanks for the interesting bit about Waterford-built frames. This is the first I hear. I never noticed the W as a deliberate W (as opposed to being strictly an embellishment) on my Waterford Hunqapillar, so it was cool to see it for what it is. I had to check the other Rivs in the stable, all Toyo built, and of course none has the W.
 
Thanks again!
 
Hunq Waterford seat stay end.jpeg
 
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 9:47:06 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
 
Don't Waterford frames have a distinctive seat stay end cap with a 'W" in the recess - my Bombadil does. This is a better picture from the Waterford site, but the same as my Bombadil:
 
6881680380_566caa3985_z-nwiouwjw51r3qwj11ieoc8axc7o69w290ux5x1it4w.jpg
 
Laing
 
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:05:54 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
 
THAT'S it. I knew there was a difference between the two but couldn't remember the detail change. But I think yours is backwards, my recollection is Toyo had two sets of bottle bosses and the later Waterford got the third set.
 
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:01:05 AM UTC-7 Hetchins52 wrote:
 
Not sure that it is totally definitive but I expect the Toyo AHH to have three water bottle boss pairs and the Waterford to have two pairs (none under the down tube).
 
David Lipsky
 
On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 7:11:42 PM UTC-7 James wrote:
 
I have an older AHH. Anyone know how I can tell if it's Toyo or Waterford made?
 
On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:52:35 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
 
I had an older MUSA AHH 61 (2006-ish?) and a Taiwan Sam 62 (2015-ish) with 2TT and for a brief spell I also had a 2TT 58. All of them were 700C. I should also say that they are all gone at this point, nothing wrong with them except my own unnecessary searching for the next shiny object.
 
Both are amazing frames and can be set up very similarly - I think your tires, racks and handlebars would probably determine the feel and ride more than the frame geo, tubing or anything else.
 
Some details on the way mine were set up: both had front and rear racks, sidepull brakes and short stems:
 
AHH 700x38 + dropbars
 
SH 62 700x44 + dropbars
 
SH 58 700x42 + Albatross
 
It has been said that the Sam is burlier or that the tubing on the Homer is slightly lighter and the lugs are more elegant. To me, they were both equally capable, perhaps the 2TT Sam felt a tad stiffer particularly when loaded, but it certainly didn't feel slower. Also, at no point did I feel like my AHH couldn't carry as much as the Sam.
 
Are you trying to decide which one you'd buy? If so, I would choose based on availability, color, badge, name, which one do you find more beautiful? Oh and sizing: which one fits you better? If you can find a frame where you fall in the middle of the suggested PBH range for either the Sam or the AHH I would choose that.
 
Not sure if this helps, but I think Grant said it best when he said it was hard to tell one from the other when you were riding them.
 
Best.
 
Max
 
On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:38:49 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
 
Dave Grossman
 
What made your the Roadini a superior all around bike compared your AHH-MUSA/MUJ ??? Was the Roadini more lively, handle better, ride better, or something else??? It seems the Roadini is more a pure road bike vs the all around nature of the AHH. Just curious.
 
John Hawrylak
 
Woodstown NJ
 
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 10:25:19 PM UTC-4 Dave Grossman wrote:
 
I have an older Homer (not sure if it is Waterford or Toyo but I'd like to know actually) and having owned a Roadini I can say I find it a much superior all around bike. I hadn't considered a Sam since I have a Hunq but I can do light touring and backpacking with my Homer if I desire. I rotate it in my commuter stable with the Hunq and I end up riding it quite often. I currently have it set up with Crust Towel bars (with a large Fabs in the middle!), VO fenders, and 44s. I have it maxed out, but it is such a great ride. I've thought about getting a stripped road bike but the Homer is so versatile. I think if I didn't have the Hunq, I'd be more inclined to get a Sam. But if you already have a hauler an older Homer is the way to go. I have a 63, which I am on the small side for with a 90 pbh, but it fits great and I love the ride. My Hunq is a 58 and while I can clear a 62 (I've ridden the 62 before) I love having the clearance that a slightly smaller frame allows for the rough stuff.
 
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 4:27:16 PM UTC-5 ttoshi wrote:
 
Just to be more confusing, I have a circa 2012 Homer, and I believe the even sizes are 650b and the odd sizes are 700c, so there was some overlap within some of the sizes. I have a 54 cm AHH 650b, and I believe the 55 cm and 57 cm were 700c, while the 56 cm was 650b.
 
My Homer maxed out at 38 mm tires + fenders--I've used Parimoto, Lierre, GravelKing, and Soma Xpress, and all are good for me (depending upon the application, eg. commute vs fast ride). My favorite tire size for 650b is 42 mm, and I believe the Sam H can ride those with fenders, so I might lean that direction if I had to choose.
 
Toshi
 
--
 
You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
 
To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/zxdEQemEm80/unsubscribe.
 
To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
 
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/90658a3b-4909-4f4f-b114-e02c77cacf32n%40googlegroups.com.
 
--
 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
 
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
 
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e6fa2abb-ebbc-4d11-8b81-1582d6500f6cn%40googlegroups.com.
 
--
 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
 
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
 
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/51ee74a2-de1d-4b12-bce4-acd2e81032f6n%40googlegroups.com.
James <jtp...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 11:04AM -0700

Interested in a Nitto Wavie bar or something similar and a silver triple
crank, 173 or longer length. I have a RH triple for sale on another post
and am open to trades.
vernon brooks <plumber...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 11:14AM -0700

Hey James might be interested in the Rene Herse crank are you able to share
a link?
 
James <jtp...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 11:18AM -0700

Just posted it
James <jtp...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 11:17AM -0700

Rene Herse triple with 2 extra rings. It really good shape and pretty sure
the extra rings are unused. 177 length. $700 value new, asking $500 +
shipping but please make offers.
 
Open to trades for Silver Triple, Wavie Bars (or similar), paul thimbie
mounts, or a whole thumbie shifter set-up. Shimano shadow M592 rear
deraileur, a mid-range front deraileur, MKS monarch grips
Ashwath Akirekadu <ash...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 09:56AM -0700

Price drop: now $750
 
Pickup is from Ashburn, VA
 
 
 
On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 19:13:56 UTC-4 Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:
 
Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 08:39AM -0600

Fashion (well, *civilian* fashion) left me behind long ago; I forget that
current men's dress pants are cut very tight and low. No, my pants are all
dad pants from 20+ years ago; I guess that makes them grandad pants.
 
 
 
RichS <rshann...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 09:20AM -0700

Patrick,
 
+1 on your church going cycling attire. The description is vivid enough so
I can clearly see it. Your warm weather sartorial choices are impressive as
well.
I need to up my game and enhance my decade old Rivendell knickers. Thanks
for the inspiration:-)
 
Best,
Rich in ATL

 
On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:28:12 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
 
You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this group. You can change your settings on the group membership page.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.

Sally Bidleman

unread,
Nov 6, 2023, 9:27:23 AM11/6/23
to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
Thanks, Tom; these look great, too. I want to see the rack "in person" before I buy it, so I'll put this one on my list to check on!

To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9E671016-E2A1-45FF-8E3E-1029E2183CF0%40gmail.com.
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages