Ron's Ortho Bars in stock at Crust

[Eric Marth]

Some have cyclers have been waiting for these, Ron's swept-back super wide bars. They quietly went up on the Crust site this week. I believe these are based on Bosco bars that Ron modified by somehow flattening and bending them to make 'em wider.  

https://crustbikes.com/products/rons-ortho-bar-for-whenever-it-shows-up

[lucky...@gmail.com]

I want to try these so badly but I need to *sell* not *buy* in 2022. Focus! 

These are the bars he has on his S-Works, right? I have a tall old Rockhopper in the garage and—

On Jan 5, 2022, at 10:49, Eric Marth <eric...@gmail.com> wrote:

Some have cyclers have been waiting for these, Ron's swept-back super wide bars. They quietly went up on the Crust site this week. I believe these are based on Bosco bars that Ron modified by somehow flattening and bending them to make 'em wider.  

https://crustbikes.com/products/rons-ortho-bar-for-whenever-it-shows-up

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[Joe Bernard]

"Xtreme comfort tech"

I love it 😂

[Eric Marth]

Yeah, Lucky, he's got them on the S-works. Also on his Atlantis. 

[John Phillips]

Thanks for posting, I've been wanting to try out these bars since I first saw a photo of them in one of Ron's emails 11 months ago, and they're nearly sold out already.

Ron said they'd be something line 67-69cm, but I didn't see too many spec's listed. Does anyone know how wide these bars are?

John

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[Dee Dee]

They’re 69 cm wide according to his post on Instagram.

-Danny

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[Eric Marth]

Good gracious that's wide

[John Phillips]

Cool, thanks Danny.

John

[Eric Marth]

Getting off-topic here but shipping from Crust is outrageous. $14 to ship just the bars to me (I'm an hour away from the by car). If I add two rolls of Newbaums shipping jumps to $30!! It had to be said. Thanks for listening. 

[John Phillips]

Maybe send Crust an email?

Maybe there's a glitch in their shipping calculator, an extra $16 to ship 2 rolls of Newbaum's seems weird.

John

[Taylor M]

I second sending Crust an email.

I suspect whatever algorithm they're using to compute shipping costs doesn't take into account packing considerations, namely whether an item adds significant weight to or changes the size of the package. I ordered the bars + a hat and shipping was a little over $40. I was distracted so I didn't notice until after the fact, but they processed and shipped my order quickly and refunded $25 without me saying anything. This also wasn't the first time Crust has proactively refunded part of my order's shipping cost.

[Ed Carolipio]

Concur with Taylor on Crust shipping. I thought their shipping charges were insane but actual shipping was a lot less and they refunded the difference after they created the shipping label. You can call/e-mail to verify but that was my experience the two times I bought from them last year.

--Ed C.

[Bones]

Thanks for the head's up. I saw these on Ron's Atlantis a while back and was intrigued. I managed to snag a set before they vanished. About the shipping: I've ordered many things from Crust and I regularly receive adjustments for the difference in actual shipping costs once my stuff ships. $30 is steep, but I doubt you would ever end up paying that.

Bones

[Michael Williams]

Just a heads up to the group if you missed out on the Crust ortho bars:  there is a fellow who makes all types of handlebars under the moniker DoomBars on instagram.   He does a lot of swoopy albatross style bars.   I’ve ordered 2 pairs from him over the last couple years.   He’ll do any sweep/ rise/ width.   It’s really actually awesome.  He’s really great to work with.  They’re made of steel.  Very strong but not too heavy.   When I ordered I think they were either $100 or $120 might have gone up, not sure.  If you’re looking for custom bars they’re hard to beat.   -Mike

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[brendonoid]

I've been waiting since February last year for these bars and have checked the website at least once a week in that interval. I really wanted them for a Susie build.

They are now sold out.

*sigh*

[Joe Mullins]

I had a set in my shopping cart and got sidetracked at work and when I checked back an hour later they were sold out :-(

[ascpgh]

Gone. "Out of stock" at 0630 EST when I looked.

You can order a "notify me when restocked" alert.

Andy Cheatham

Pittsburgh

[iamkeith]

Well, I somehow missed this altogether.  Interesting though because that's exactly what I dream about doing to my own bosco bars every time  use them.  Does anyboby know where to find reference to Ron first bending his own?  Were they aluminum or steel?  Mine are steel, and I worry about the "dull- bright" Nitto finish cracking if it's plating based.  Otherwise, I'm comfortable packing them full of sand and taking a tubing bender to them. 

[Eric Marth]

Keith – Not sure of the exact process but I've seen a short vid of Ron bending bars. He had the handlebars in a bench vise sandwiched between two 2x6s. He then pulled on the bars with all his weight. No idea what the original bars are. 

As Mike suggests DoomBars seems to be a good way to go. Who knows if/when these will be re-stocked at Crust. I think this now-sold-out shipment had been delayed several months. 

Thanks to Ed and Taylor regarding shipping, I didn't realize they were issuing refunds. I just removed the bar tape from my order. 

[Ryan Frahm]

As stated above, use a vice sandwiched between 2x6. Steel bar. Do not bend aluminum bars!

I was waiting for Ron’s bars since the first photo leak. Saw the post here that they were in stock but couldn’t get to them in time. Oh well hopefully they will come around again soon!

[Tim Baldwin]

I'll add another recommendation for Doom Bars. Here's a pic of mine in the garage at work- too cold to stop for a photo on the way in. They have the bend angle of albatross with no forward sweep, around 68cm wide. Best bars I've ridden! Took around a month to get them. He was easy to work with and the pricing was around what the ortho bars would have cost.

[Mike Davis]

Why not email or call Crust? They have always been responsive to my queries. I would also click the notify button to determine when they might be in stock. 

Mike

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[iamkeith]

Thanks.  I think I'll try it.  As noted, I'm only worried about the finish cracking if it's anything like brittle chrome.   These are fillet brazed, steel, bullmoose bosco bars.  Other than being too high and too narrow, and too straight-back at the grip, they're a perfect compliment to my fillet brazed susie, which is why I want to make them work.  

Otherwise, I agree with everyone about the custom Doom bars.  I used a different custom bar ("Arise") on my last mountain bike a few years ago, and I now have steel bars on 5 of my most ridden bikes.  I just can't see any reason to ever use off-the-shelf, aluminum bars again.  (At least not for a big guy like me who always wants wider and stiffer, and for whom a few grams of weight is not a big deal.)  I'm gearing up to get two bars from Doom, and ironically recommended the idea to someone on the IBOB list just a few days ago.

FYI, my "pack them full of sand" idea came from Charlie Cunningham.  That's what he did to modify aluminum drop bars into the first dirt-drop bars, which then inspired Grant to make the first mass-produced dirt-drop bar for the '87 MB-1.  But Charlie could re-heat-treat them after bending, so I think it's good advice not to bend aluminum myself.

[Richard Rose]

I never noticed this Crust bar before. But, since my (first ever) new conversation seems to be in a holding pattern.., my new to me Clem came with a 65cm wide Tosco bar (similar) with 31.8 clamp size that is simply too wide for me. I also have the 31.8 FacePlater stem in 135 length - too long for me. These will both be for sale as soon as I am allowed to post them. New ones are already on their way from Rivendell.

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On Jan 5, 2022, at 3:32 PM, Eric Marth <eric...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yeah, Lucky, he's got them on the S-works. Also on his Atlantis. 

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[Brian McDermott]

I was lucky enough to snag a pair. Will report findings once I get them on a bike!

[Sam Mack]

those look familiar! Arb and i talk about your bars all the time Tim! 

[John Phillips]

69cm is just more than minimal width for my shoulders & wrists. But I'm praying these bars aren't TOO flexy for me, and that pairing with a long, low stem will give me some breathing room.

In those Radavist photos, I noticed Uncle Ron has his stem down below his saddle, and is gripping those bars at the inside end of those grips.

My intuition is telling me a bullmoose version of these bars with a 170mm quill would fit my Hunqapillar better.

John

[Eric Marth]

Because everything is better with pics – drive-side view as described by John ;)  I love how beat to shit this bike is, the mismatched Paul brakes, the silver, the purple. Is the fork a replacement? The article says he's running a 38-20 double with an extra ring as bashguard. Ummmmmm that's groovy. 

There's a recent interview w. Ron on the Blue Lug site. He mentions there might be an aluminum bike like this in the early development stages with Crust. 

[John Phillips]

Eric, thanks for the link to the interview.

That is a beautiful bike. From the side, this set up looks a lot like my Hunqapillar with Alba's. I'm hoping a Nitto NP stem will get the Ortho bars down low enough as my saddle is a lot closer to the frame than Uncle Ron's saddle is. If the bars slip in the NP stem slips, I may try a 4 bolt Wendy stem.

John

[Andrew Huston]

If anyone has buyers remorse, let me know and I'll take a set off your hands. I lingered and lost.

[Joe Mullins]

Add me to that list please! I have a feeling they’d be way to big but maybe not…only one way to find out. Thanks!

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[Ryan Frahm]

I’ll add myself to the list as well! I was out and couldn’t buy them in time. Been waiting since I caught a glimpse of them almost 2 years ago!

[Austin Moore]

I’m hoping the bars come back in stock.  Iv had my eye on them for the last year with all the tease photos in IG. I didn't think they’d sell out in 5 minutes. Ron said in the Radivist comments section on the write up on them they may have been shorted a little more then half the order.  So I have hope that’s true and they’ll have more in stock soon rather then wait a year or more for the next order if they do re order. Aside from that they have a very elegant shape to them. 

Austin 

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[Joe Hall]

Mine came in today, and let me just say, I wish I ordered two. They are fantastic!

[Eric Marth]

For anyone who missed it, Ron's email update included a bit on the availability, quick sale and re-stock of the back bars: 

• That brings me to the mild outcry over the rapid sell through of Uncle Ron’s Orthopedic Back bar.  There is a narrative swirling around the internet that we do this sorta thing on purpose —- if we were only that smart.  This is a short story about a small business with medium popularity.  

  I generally prototype new products in my barn.  In the case of these handlebars, i used a nitto bosco as a blank and bent them to where i liked it best.  I call up Matt from Crust and convince him to make them — where he generally trusts me with baked in reluctance.  Adam Sklar digitally draws them up for me —- and its off to the best handlebar factory in Taiwan who also happen to make Renthal’s motocross bars.  So these handlebars are gonna take a while to make.  In normal times, 3-6 months is normal …. as things sit now, you are lucky to have a turn around under 18 months.  

  So there you are with a high performance geriatric handlebar design wondering how many you should order based on what kind of demand there will be in 18 months… will we even be here??? Fuck! Okay, 90 sounds about right.  90 it was.  90 gone in an afternoon.  More than 90 on order now…. you guessed it …. 18 months away.  Hope you still want them! 

[Eric Marth]

Hey all, in a recent video (May 31, 2023) Ron mentioned that another shipment of Ortho Bars are currently on a boat heading for North America. So set that restock alert! 

https://crustbikes.com/collections/handlebars/products/rons-ortho-bar-for-whenever-it-shows-up

[Paul Clifton]

welp, they didn't last very long ...

[Brian Turner]

I don’t think they put them up again on the site… unless I somehow missed the restock notification email. If you’re looking at them now as out of stock, it’s likely because they’ve long been unavailable on the site.

On Jun 12, 2023, at 9:18 AM, Paul Clifton <paulgc...@gmail.com> wrote:

welp, they didn't last very long ...

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[Paul Clifton]

Oh, I misunderstood what Eric wrote.

[Eric Marth]

Yeah, sorry for any confusion! As of this writing, 13 June 2023, they are out of stock. But inbound! I know a lot of people were interested so figured I'd share some vague intel that more are on the way. 

Sure to sell out quickly, again. Lots of restock email notifications subscribed. 

[Sarah Carlson]

Thank you for posting! I have been trying to find these to encourage my boyfriend to love riding... but I guess I'll have to keep waiting!