Gus or Susie

[adam parsley]

Grant recommends going with a gus if you are over 165 lbs or under and plan on carrying a full camping load. I have heard from a friend that the atlantis feels a little over built. Has anyone felt that way about the Gus? Would throwing a big load on the susie be a bad idea?

[Deacon Patrick]

There are three people who have ridden Gus with a load. I may exaggerate, but not by much. Only demo bike exist so far.

My GBW is built perfectly for classic mountain biking (aka hillybiking), with or without a load. The long wheelbase is brilliant. The forces involved with MTBing, even without doing stupid stuff, can be significant. I'd trust Grant and ride with abandon. Well, that's what I am doing, actually. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

[Ed Carolipio]

I have the small GBW prototype and I used to own a Joe. To answer one question, no, I don't think the Gus is over built. I'm with Deacon Patrick: trust the descriptions which Grant is providing when picking one versus the other. For the Gus, his descriptions have been spot on.

As for big loads on a Susie, well, it's never a bad idea to load up a bike and head out somewhere...

--Ed C.

[Oliver Smith]

I love the idea of the Susie and hope I can somehow procure an XL. A slightly lighter tubing spec might add an iota of suspension and take off an iota of weight. I’m most intrigued by the frame design (sort of Mtn Mixte) and the ability to run big tires. It would be my first MTB in ~15yrs. I’m within the weight limit, which I suspect is conservative. Cheers to the prospect of Susie and Wolbis!

Oliver Smith

[Ed Fausto]

Hi Oliver,

Same here and currently ~152 lbs so seriously considering a Susie but I plan to use the hillbike on the GDMBR loaded.

But with all the camping gear, it would still make sense to use the GBW :-)

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 7:33 AM Oliver Smith <oliver...@gmail.com> wrote:

I love the idea of the Susie and hope I can somehow procure an XL. A slightly lighter tubing spec might add an iota of suspension and take off an iota of weight. I’m most intrigued by the frame design (sort of Mtn Mixte) and the ability to run big tires. It would be my first MTB in ~15yrs. I’m within the weight limit, which I suspect is conservative. Cheers to the prospect of Susie and Wolbis!

Oliver Smith

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[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Sub 165 on an XL? That's some long and skinny (I'm long and skinny too (6'8" 200lbs)) maybe the XL will not be as thinly tubed? I don't think many who can ride it are near or under the prescribed weight limit.
-Kai

[Ash]

I had always wondered about one-tube-thickness-fits-all aspect.  My frame size (46cm App/50cm Atlantis) being inherently stronger due to shorter tubes, isn't it over-built (and too rigid) compared to a 60cm frame if the same tubing is used?  Besides, the rider + load (160 + no more than 20lbs generally) is relatively light.  Having said that, for non-custom frames it is economically not viable to have so many permutations.

For me Susie makes perfect sense.  I'm thankful to Grant for making the lighter version available.  I'm sold!

[Mark in Beacon]

Interestingly, at about 5'10" my 73.5cm or so saddle height is representrf in all four sizes. Obviously the small and xl being outliers. More to come on this.