List Admin Message: Kerfuffle of the week and what to do about scammy folks

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Hey all - 

I just removed another person who listed an item and appears to have been harvesting internet images and presenting them as their own. That's not OK. 

This has happened pretty infrequently on this group, and it always a minor PITA to deal with. 

All of which has me wanting to tighten down the listing of for sale items for new members. These problems always stem from some "enterprising" individual who joins the group and tries to post a for sale item immediately. I can count on one hand the times that some "known" group member acted inappropriately in a transaction.

The way in which we've avoided this in the past is by asking folks to engage on the list first, and use it as a way to rehome items second. I'm going to be a lot more rigid about that now. 

I'll update the list info to reflect this in stronger language, but if your first post is a For Sale item, I won't be passing it through the queue. If you would like to offer items to other members, please engage with the community for a while (purposefully vague...) and demonstrate that you aren't simply here to cash in. 

So - deep breath everyone. 

Thanks to those who shared more than just conjecture. That clarified the issue in this case. That's important data. 

As for potential or new members who just want to sell gear and not be part of this community - there's ebay or other marketplaces which protect you and the buyer, as well as more transactionally focused groups. Please use those. 

Other than that, we're coming into riding season. Go get some miles in.

Jim / List-admin

[John Rinker]

Hey Jim,

Your thoughts on this matter make perfect sense to me. Thank you very much for all you do to make our community a fun and informative place to be.

Cheers, John

[Hoch in ut]

Would it be possible to list the names of the scammers somewhere? Just for those initiated contact by a private message prior to the ban. 

[Igor]

Thanks for taking care of this, Jim!

[Bernard Duhon]

 

 

 

Great Job!!!!!

 

 

 

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Bernard F. Duhon

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[Matthew Williams]

On May 7, 2024, at 2:56 PM, Hoch in ut wrote:

Would it be possible to list the names of the scammers somewhere? J

A quick Google of “cuddlebear1808” yielded this:

Thanks for keeping our community safe and scammer-free, Jim. We appreciate you.

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[Cyclofiend Jim]

I would say a good rule of thumb:
- An offer which begins as a DM
- The offer comes from someone who has no posts in the group

= "Run Away!"

[Armand Kizirian]

Thank you Jim!