Friction 1x11

[Sam Perez]

Any one have any experience with a friction 1x set up ? I'm really curious, but was discouraged bc I've herd anything above an 8s suffers on friction mode, is there a shifters that would be adequate and is the shifting more fussy ?

Thanks

[jamison brosseau]

I run a box components 9 speed wide range cassette 1x and have experienced no issues  or any desire to run a larger cassette.  I have used microshift , dura ace and sunrace shifters.  I have recently switched to indexed shifting and am not sure I will be going back to friction any time soon.

[Philip Williamson]

Friction shifting 11 speeds is easier than friction on 9. Shifting isn’t fussy at all.

I have a silver downtube shifter. The throw of the shifter is maxed out - it’s parallel to the down tube at each end of the throw, but that’s fine.

Philip

Santa Rosa, CA

[Michael Morrissey]

Yes, of course it will work. I have a friction 9 speed set up on my Rivendell and, yes, it is a little fussy, but it works incredibly smoothly and I have a clutch derailleur. I use the Silver1 shifter because it's longer and therefore slightly more precise IMHO. 

On my other bike, I have a Suntour Power Ratchet thumbshifter with a Deore 7 speed setup on the back. It is truly bulletproof. I have ridden it for years with ZERO adjustment.

Post up a list of the parts you have and I'm sure we can figure out if it will work or not.

m

[Patrick Moore]

Adding my tiny clamor to the general hubub (not Hubbuhubbuh): I've done this for years with 7, 8, 9, and 10 speed cassettes. Currently 

I shift a 1X10 (with granny bailout) using Suntour bar cons and a 7 or 8 speed rd (Dura Ace 7401), and it works surprisingly well despite the shifter and derailleur not being "optimized" for the job. After I swapped out the mix 'n' match cogs (7, 8, and 9 speed used with 10 sp spacers) for actual 10 speed Miche cogs used with eleven speed spacers,* "excellent" got taken to "wholly superlative." 

The 1X10 as above shifts better than any 1X5 or 1X6 freewheel drivetrain I've used, and I don't complain about shifting 5 or 6 speed freewheels.

A trick I learned from Bike Radar, to wit, use a chain 1 generation later than your cassette to make good shifting even better; thus 11 with 10, 10 with 9, etc. I use modestly priced SRAM chains, in case that makes a difference.

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Patrick Moore

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[Adam in Indiana]

I’ve been using 1x11 for a while, in both friction and indexed.  I use an appropriate Microshift lever with a Shimano SLX clutch derailleur, and it works flawlessly.  I started it out as a bar-end, but now have it on a hydraulic Gevenalle setup.

On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 1:24:37 AM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:

[Matthew P]

Thank you Sam for this post. This is currently on my mind.
My friends insisted on a clutch derailer, and then, better than insisting, a friend gave me one (I reciprocated to make it a trade :)

So I've been internally himming and hawing over what shifter to run on my Shimano 11 speed clutch derailer and Shimano 11-42, 11 speed casette.

One thing that came to mind is I'd like to have friction shifting an option if/when, for some reason, I can't correctly tune the indexed shifting with a barrel adjuster etc.
I think the barcon/bar-end option to switch between indexed and friction shifting is a really nice option and back-up plan.
I am also a little resistant to mountain bike trigger shifters, not for mechanical reasons, just...personal prefernce/bias.

So I'm thinking I'll go with the Microshift 11 spd thumb shifter.
It looks like its the SL-M11 I want:
https://www.microshift.com/en/product/sl-m11/
I wish it had the bolt with the folding loop on top like the Shimanos to make it easier to switch between friction and indexed.

I think I'm decided now, thanks, but also happy to hear more.

-Matthew
San Diego, CA

[Adam Bowen]

I am currently running a friction 12speed set up with a microshift bar end and GX Eagle derailer/cassette. I have been pleased with how well it works

[Patrick Moore]

This is very good to know. I don't expect that I will want to go beyond 10 -- when I decided to convert from friction 9 to friction 10, I thought I was being daringly cutting edge -- but it's good to know that there remain further possibilities, if and when.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 10:08 AM Adam Bowen <adam.som...@gmail.com> wrote:

I am currently running a friction 12speed set up with a microshift bar end and GX Eagle derailer/cassette. I have been pleased with how well it works

[Daniel MacPherson]

Good to hear. I'm currently setting up a bike with your same set-up. I've been rocking 10 speed friction for a year, so why not try 12 speed? 

[DB]

I've been using this same set up and it's totally fine.  

On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 9:08:35 AM UTC-8 Adam Bowen wrote: