Removing dried Orange Seal from wool jersey?

[Patrick Moore]

I just belatedly washed all my winter cycling kit and discovered a streak of what I guess is dried Orange Seal Endurance down the front of a lovely teal Wabi Woolen merino jersey.

Does anyone have suggestions about how to remove this without hurting the fabric?

Probably not relevant, but in case: I just washed the garment in Kookabura washing fluid.

I love modern sealants for letting me ride gossamer tires amongst the goatheads, but sealants are still messy, hassle-ous, annoying things compared to Remas in non-goathead environments.

Thanks, Patrick

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Patrick Moore

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[Tom M]

https://silca.cc/collections/clean/products/ultimate-sealant-remover. I have not used this on clothes but have used it to remove sealant from rims and tires.

Tom in Alexandria, VA

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Tom. I might order some for my frame and fenders even if it is not safe for merino wool (might order their wax as well).

Does anyone know if this is safe to use on good wool fabric?

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[Patrick Moore]

Some searching brought up this exchange about poor results with the stuff (and the suggestion that the stuff sold for less than 1/2 the price at Amazon is the same stuff as the Silca stuff):

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=173205

I might try one of the methods described here: https://forum.cyclinguk.org/viewtopic.php?t=144502

I spilt some Stan's sealant on a pair of jeans and the stain didn't come out even after a few wash cycles. I finally got rid of most of the stain by doing the following:

Apply washing up liquid (I used Tesco cheapo liquid) to the stain and work it into the dry fabric by hand. Then immerse it in a warm water and washing detergent mix, using a normal dilution. ie. using a normal handwashing strength wash. Wash it by hand in the mix. Then I used hand soap to scrub the wet and washed area. Then I gave it a normal second wash, rinse and spin dry. 

I managed to get rid of most of the stain on the outside of the jeans but the stain is still visible on the inside. So that will be dealt with on the next wash.

Apparently the solvent is propylene glycol, which is I believe is water soluble. So the first thing to try may be simply to soak in a lot of water?

Cross-eyed thinking by me, apologies. I should have said try something containing PG, then soak in water afterwards. Might even try dabbing with a little antifreeze! But lots of thinners, etc, also contain PG.

[ascpgh]

Patrick, 

You can get a 250ml container of propylene glycol from this place for $6:  glycerinsupplier.com

Being water soluble isn't an equitable measure. The classic first lab experiment in organic chemistry is saponification. It's worth worth reading about since it's what soap makers have been doing for centuries to make something that would mix with water and with oil-based dirt.

It's a slippery slope.

Andy Cheatham

Pittsburgh

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks again, all. When I looked at the newly washed and still wet jersey yesterday the sealant residue showed up off-white and bright — like fresh sealant, in fact — and I thought it was a new stain, but after drying it appears dark yellowish and much more muted and I realized that it’s really residue from several years ago that I’ve already tried to remove in various ways, including a professional dry cleaning. Since it doesn’t show up nearly as visibly dry as when the garment is wet I’ll take the lazy way out and just ignore it as I’ve done for the last 3 years.

[Patrick Moore]

Update: I think it was on this list that someone recommended that Mexican all-purpose soap Zote. I ordered some from Amazon and used it per the stain removal instructions (wet the area, rub in Zote, work it in well with your fingers, let sit 10 minutes, launder by machine or by hand as usual — “as usual” meaning with the usual laundry detergent, I think; or with more Zote per the laundry use instructions.

At any rate, the stuff managed to get organic stains out of a dress of my daughter’s which she had despaired of removing, and it did so easily; and 1 generous application via the “stain” method did manage to noticeabley reduce the dried OS stain on that Wabi Woolen jersey; so much so that I expect that a couple more applications might remove it entirely — this after I’d had the jersey professionally dry cleaned and washed it in the machine (delicate, Kookabura) several times.

Again, the method: wet stained area, rub Zote in liberally, work it in thoroughly, wait 10 minutes, wash — by hand in this case, massage with water and detergent and rinse thoroughly.

Zote is said to be good for cleaning stoves, hair, and clothing, and for healing acne.