WTT 58 Toyo Atlantis Frame +

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Cead Nardie-Warner

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Apr 24, 2025, 2:41:44 PM4/24/25
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Hi Riv Traders! I'm putting out feelers for a complicated but potentially awesome trade!

I have a good condition (a few scrapes) 58 cm Toyo Atlantis and sweet full build option. Interested? Read on.

The story: I've just built it up and it is awesome. This is my first Rivendell and I really do love it. As you can imagine, I guesstimated the stand over on an internet purchase and great opportunity with this frame based on not ever throwing my legs over one... AND with 50 mm tires it's more than a little uncomfortable on stand over. My PBH is 83.5. Can I run smaller tire? Yes. Can I just ride it like it is? Yes, and I do with a smile! But, what I'd love is to trade for a similar era Riv frame that can accommodate a 45+ tire and not have to think about it every time I mount/dismount. 

What I'm looking for: I'm looking for an every ride bike. I have a short daily commute and ride a lot for errands and for fun. I tow kids. I live in Minnesota. I used to tour and have future aspirations of light touring duty. Ideally, I'm looking a 56 Toyo Atlantis, but open to considering your wares - I'm not interested in the further ends of the hilly bike or roadie spectrum.  

What a trade could look like: I am primarily interested in trading away the frame, headset, bottom bracket and depending on new bike wheel size a brand new never ridden 700 c Velocity Quill / White industries wheelset (set up tubeless with 50 mm Gravel King SKs). Trading the wheels is potentially silly. 

Other parts for the build that can be negotiated. All is used and in great condition but show normal signs of use
  • Sugino Triple
  • XT Rear and Front Derailleur
  • Paul Cantis and Canti Levers (black) - used but in great condition.
  • Silver Thumb Shifters - brand new in box
  • Nitto 65 seatpost
  • Nitto Deluxe 110 mm (25.4)
  • Albatross (25.4) I also have a a Wavie Bar (25.4) and an Ahearne Map handle bar which would be sweet, but its 31.8 and I don't yet have a quill stem to match it. 

dougP

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Apr 24, 2025, 10:10:56 PM4/24/25
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Sounds like a 56 would solve your problem, but note that Toyo built 56 Atlantis took 26" wheels. 

My PBH is 84. I rode a 58 for 20 years but with 35 & 40 mm tires. I tried 50s for a short while but had the same problem. Before you go to all this trouble, you might try 40mm. I used Scwalbe Marathon Supremes & they measure a true 40mm.

Good luck,

dougpnirv

Bill Lindsay

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Apr 24, 2025, 10:30:22 PM4/24/25
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I may be able to help you.  I have a 56cm 2009 Hillborne.  It would take your wheels, and would fit pretty similar while riding but would give you more standover clearance because it was one of the first Rivendells with the 6-degree sloping TT.  

That bike lives in Michigan, where I sometimes work, so I can't do anything super soon with it for you, but if you are super interested, I could likely make something happen.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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