FS: Phil cassette hub+wheel, tandem/145mm (HubbuHubbuH)

[Joe Bunik]

Hello Riv Duos

https://photos.app.goo.gl/s46aN28MZNTMnq7M6

Passing along a nice wheel/hub combo I opted into for a rough-stuff
bike project, but plans have since shifted - this is a Phil cassette
hub for use with a 145mm OLN tandem (w/ NDS threading for drum or
adapters). Re-spacing is possible but would require axle replacement
from Phil.

Laced up to a 559 / 36h Sun Rhynolite rim, I'm willing to de-lace and
cover the shipping on just the hub for $200 (alternatively, $200+CONUS
shipping your side for the entire wheel / OBO - let's talk!)

Thanks
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

[Piaw Na]

Are these the 3 pawl or 4 pawl versions? We broke one of the 3 pawl versions and Phil Wood refused to warranty it because they didn't have any 3 pawl versions left. We were stuck with a $200 bill to "upgrade" to the 4 pawl version.

[Joe Bunik]

Bumping this, and price drop -

$150 shipped for a nice Phil cassette / tandem hub, or the whole (559)
wheel with shipping on you.

Piaw: I have no idea if it's 3 or 4 pawl. Is there an indication of
which it could be? Hub is in good condition (AFAIK).

=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

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[Piaw Na]

I don't know how to identify them. You could probably call up Phil Wood and ask based on your date of purchase. Since they don't make 3 pawl ones any more that's probably a clear demarcation. (My Phils are almost 20 years old)

[Nick Payne]

On Friday, 2 June 2023 at 2:59:22 am UTC+10 jbu...@gmail.com wrote:

Piaw: I have no idea if it's 3 or 4 pawl. Is there an indication of
which it could be? Hub is in good condition (AFAIK).

I believe they swapped the design around 2017. I ran into the same problem as Piaw when I needed new pawls for the rear Phil cassette hub on my tourer - the pawls they sell now only fit the post-2017 hubs - they don't have any stock of the older pawls - and the only option offered for my hub was a substantial price to upgrade it to the new version. As I could buy several Deore XT 780 rear hubs for the price Phil wanted to upgrade their hub, my touring bike now sports a rear wheel using a Deore XT hub.

Nick Payne

[Piaw Na(藍俊彪)]

Yeah. There are no cheap versions of the 145mm tandem rear hubs, plus a full wheel rebuild wasn't what I wanted. The good news is that the kids will outgrow being seen with dad on the triplet before we wear out this next set of pawls and we can then sell the bike.

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