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Dan

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Apr 1, 2024, 3:44:46 AM4/1/24
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Hi everyone, I’d like to share the story of my new purple Appaloosa. I’ve gained a great deal of insight and enjoyment from reading this forum, so it’s only right that I return the favour with a story of my own.


From the first time I had heard that there was a company called Rivendell, I knew that someday I’d be riding one. I’d avidly read Tolkein in my childhood, so to hear that there were LotR themed bicycles - and that they were so beautiful! - was just fascinating to me. The more I read about the bikes and the philosophy, the more I was convinced. The final straw was coming across ‘Calling In Sick Magazine’, aka the unofficial Rivendell fan magazine. Reading the stories and looking at the photos of those people riding on dry hills near the ocean, in terrain not to dissimilar to what I ride here in Adelaide, Australia, gave me the impetus to make my dream a reality.


So, why did I choose an Appaloosa? To answer that, here is a little bit about the other bikes in my stable…


Surly Straggler

This was my first ‘nice’ bike, the first bike I actually did any research on before buying. I bought it to be my only bike and a do-it-all bike, one that would be reliable and fun both day-to-day and on riding anywhere and everywhere when I felt like adventure. In that, it’s met all my expectations and then some. It’s set up with a rack and fenders as a commuter, but over time I’ve tweaked it with wider, flared drops, fatter, more supple rubber and lower gearing to suit my increasing desire to explore. I’ve ridden this bike on two (metric) centuries, countless suburban explorations, in the rain, on gravel, and on single track. It does it all, more or less. I’ve never liked the looks of the stack of spacers I needed to get the bars high, and the gearing is probably a bit high, though that has made me stronger. Descending on the dirt, even with the flared drops, is a whole-body workout. Side note - I actually wanted a Cross Check, but they weren’t available to order in Australia when I bought this bike.


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Bassi Bloomfield

It took a while to allow myself the thought that it was ok to have more than one bike. I’d been browsing Blue Lug and watching Terry Barentsen during the pandemic and fell in love with the idea of 650b, fat tyres, upright bars and front baskets. The day after I’d decided that I could get myself another bike, my local bike shop listed a whole bunch of Bassi frames for sale. The clearance for wide 650b tyres and the flower head tube graphic sold me instantly!

This bike has been a revelation for me. There’s something about it - the wide bars, the light frame, having no gears - that just clicks with me. It’s like the bike is hard-wired into my brain. And the basket! It’s so practical. More than that, though, this bike looks great. It’s a bike that non-bike people complement me on. And it sold me on how good it feels to ride upright.


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Why Appaloosa?

Which brings me to the Appaloosa. In the last two years I’d begun to the explore the range of hills that flank Kaurna country / the Adelaide plains. I like riding from my door, winding through the suburbs to a trail head, then climbing and exploring the trails, going a little further each time. I wanted a bike that would be fun to ride on the road but more comfortable and capable off it than my other bikes. In short, I wanted a touring bike, and the Appaloosa seemed like it. I liked that the 2.2” tyres looked like a balance of speed and comfort, and the long chainstays promised to smooth out bumps and make hair-raising off-road descents more palatable. Spoiler alert: both of these things were true!


I’ll spare you the story of sourcing the frame. I’ll only say that I initially hesitated on the purple colour, which in hindsight was absolutely ridiculous. Purple is my favourite colour and THIS purple is amazing. It’s perfect.


First Impressions

I picked up the Appaloosa on Thursday after my bike shop kindly managed to get it ready before the Easter long weekend. Since then, I’ve taken the bike on a couple of long rides and a handful of short ones. The long rides include a 50km-or-so out and back along the linear trail of Adelaide’s main river, and one of my regular, rocky, single-track heavy foothills climbing loops.


The comfort of the riding position on this bike is incredible. My chest feels so open, and I can look around freely. I’m almost too carefree and sometimes need to remind myself to look at where I’m going! Despite this, pedalling isn’t a chore either. When climbing, the combination of long wheelbase and low gearing (24 x 36 low gear) makes it feel like there’s a motor behind me, pushing my up climbs without losing traction. Descending is impressively stable, both on road and off. It’s almost a joke how much more calm and in control I was riding down a steep, dirt hill face this morning. On my Straggler I was physically exhausted from the short descent from the effort it took to hold myself in the drops / on the brakes. On the Appaloosa - it was just like any other part of the ride, and I could gaze at the panorama of the city as I descended. Wow. 


Yes, the rocky trails were still bumpy, but overall I’m far more refreshed hopping off this bike than I ever have been on the Surly. I’m still working out this whole friction-shifting thing, and had a bit of issue changing through the very low gears while bumping around and climbing. I’m not convinced on Brooks saddles either. I’ve bruised my behind from the few rides that I’ve done to date, and if that continues much longer then I’ll be swapping the Brooks out for an Ergon like I use on my other bikes. But there’s plenty of time for that. I’m looking forwards to riding and exploring with this bike a lot more over the coming months and years!


Build list

  • 57cm Appaloosa, purple
    • (I was initially worried about the standover on this big frame, but so far it’s been absolutely fine. I’m 183cm/6’ with a ~89cm PBH)
  • 2.2” Panaracer Driver Pros on Velocity Cliffhangers
  • SON front, Bitex rear hubs
  • Crust Ron’s Ortho bars on a Velo Orange Grand Cru stem
    • They can slip a little if I try to push them down, but haven't moved while riding yet.
  • MKS Gamma pedals on a SpaCycles TD2 42-24 crankset
  • Deore RD running a 12-36 9sp cassette
  • Silver2 thumb shifters and DXR V brakes
  • Memento Ant front rack - this thing is beautiful to behold and SO strong.
  • Dynamo lighting and basket to come!

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Richard Rose

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Apr 1, 2024, 8:52:59 AM4/1/24
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On Apr 1, 2024, at 3:45 AM, Dan <gril...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi everyone, I’d like to share the story of my new purple Appaloosa. I’ve gained a great deal of insight and enjoyment from reading this forum, so it’s only right that I return the favour with a story of my own.


From the first time I had heard that there was a company called Rivendell, I knew that someday I’d be riding one. I’d avidly read Tolkein in my childhood, so to hear that there were LotR themed bicycles - and that they were so beautiful! - was just fascinating to me. The more I read about the bikes and the philosophy, the more I was convinced. The final straw was coming across ‘Calling In Sick Magazine’, aka the unofficial Rivendell fan magazine. Reading the stories and looking at the photos of those people riding on dry hills near the ocean, in terrain not to dissimilar to what I ride here in Adelaide, Australia, gave me the impetus to make my dream a reality.


So, why did I choose an Appaloosa? To answer that, here is a little bit about the other bikes in my stable…


Surly Straggler

This was my first ‘nice’ bike, the first bike I actually did any research on before buying. I bought it to be my only bike and a do-it-all bike, one that would be reliable and fun both day-to-day and on riding anywhere and everywhere when I felt like adventure. In that, it’s met all my expectations and then some. It’s set up with a rack and fenders as a commuter, but over time I’ve tweaked it with wider, flared drops, fatter, more supple rubber and lower gearing to suit my increasing desire to explore. I’ve ridden this bike on two (metric) centuries, countless suburban explorations, in the rain, on gravel, and on single track. It does it all, more or less. I’ve never liked the looks of the stack of spacers I needed to get the bars high, and the gearing is probably a bit high, though that has made me stronger. Descending on the dirt, even with the flared drops, is a whole-body workout. Side note - I actually wanted a Cross Check, but they weren’t available to order in Australia when I bought this bike.


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Bassi Bloomfield

It took a while to allow myself the thought that it was ok to have more than one bike. I’d been browsing Blue Lug and watching Terry Barentsen during the pandemic and fell in love with the idea of 650b, fat tyres, upright bars and front baskets. The day after I’d decided that I could get myself another bike, my local bike shop listed a whole bunch of Bassi frames for sale. The clearance for wide 650b tyres and the flower head tube graphic sold me instantly!

This bike has been a revelation for me. There’s something about it - the wide bars, the light frame, having no gears - that just clicks with me. It’s like the bike is hard-wired into my brain. And the basket! It’s so practical. More than that, though, this bike looks great. It’s a bike that non-bike people complement me on. And it sold me on how good it feels to ride upright.


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Why Appaloosa?

Which brings me to the Appaloosa. In the last two years I’d begun to the explore the range of hills that flank Kaurna country / the Adelaide plains. I like riding from my door, winding through the suburbs to a trail head, then climbing and exploring the trails, going a little further each time. I wanted a bike that would be fun to ride on the road but more comfortable and capable off it than my other bikes. In short, I wanted a touring bike, and the Appaloosa seemed like it. I liked that the 2.2” tyres looked like a balance of speed and comfort, and the long chainstays promised to smooth out bumps and make hair-raising off-road descents more palatable. Spoiler alert: both of these things were true!


I’ll spare you the story of sourcing the frame. I’ll only say that I initially hesitated on the purple colour, which in hindsight was absolutely ridiculous. Purple is my favourite colour and THIS purple is amazing. It’s perfect.


First Impressions

I picked up the Appaloosa on Thursday after my bike shop kindly managed to get it ready before the Easter long weekend. Since then, I’ve taken the bike on a couple of long rides and a handful of short ones. The long rides include a 50km-or-so out and back along the linear trail of Adelaide’s main river, and one of my regular, rocky, single-track heavy foothills climbing loops.


The comfort of the riding position on this bike is incredible. My chest feels so open, and I can look around freely. I’m almost too carefree and sometimes need to remind myself to look at where I’m going! Despite this, pedalling isn’t a chore either. When climbing, the combination of long wheelbase and low gearing (24 x 36 low gear) makes it feel like there’s a motor behind me, pushing my up climbs without losing traction. Descending is impressively stable, both on road and off. It’s almost a joke how much more calm and in control I was riding down a steep, dirt hill face this morning. On my Straggler I was physically exhausted from the short descent from the effort it took to hold myself in the drops / on the brakes. On the Appaloosa - it was just like any other part of the ride, and I could gaze at the panorama of the city as I descended. Wow. 


Yes, the rocky trails were still bumpy, but overall I’m far more refreshed hopping off this bike than I ever have been on the Surly. I’m still working out this whole friction-shifting thing, and had a bit of issue changing through the very low gears while bumping around and climbing. I’m not convinced on Brooks saddles either. I’ve bruised my behind from the few rides that I’ve done to date, and if that continues much longer then I’ll be swapping the Brooks out for an Ergon like I use on my other bikes. But there’s plenty of time for that. I’m looking forwards to riding and exploring with this bike a lot more over the coming months and years!


Build list

  • 57cm Appaloosa, purple
    • (I was initially worried about the standover on this big frame, but so far it’s been absolutely fine. I’m 183cm/6’ with a ~89cm PBH)
  • 2.2” Panaracer Driver Pros on Velocity Cliffhangers
  • SON front, Bitex rear hubs
  • Crust Ron’s Ortho bars on a Velo Orange Grand Cru stem
    • They can slip a little if I try to push them down, but haven't moved while riding yet.
  • MKS Gamma pedals on a SpaCycles TD2 42-24 crankset
  • Deore RD running a 12-36 9sp cassette
  • Silver2 thumb shifters and DXR V brakes
  • Memento Ant front rack - this thing is beautiful to behold and SO strong.
  • Dynamo lighting and basket to come!

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Mike Packard

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Apr 1, 2024, 12:55:20 PM4/1/24
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Great story and pics, thanks for sharing Dan. Congrats on the new bike. It's making me want to put rons bars back on the atlantis.

mike in austin tx

Jay

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Apr 1, 2024, 5:29:46 PM4/1/24
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I also love this post!

I was in C&L Cycle, home of the Bassi and noticed the Bloomfield.  That caught me eye in your write up so I thought I would mention.

That purple is amazing.  Enjoy!

Eric Marth

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Apr 5, 2024, 2:47:36 PM4/5/24
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Great post and run-down, Dan! The Appaloosa is lookin' good. 

Dan

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Apr 6, 2024, 2:44:19 AM4/6/24
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Thank you everyone for your kind words. I'm enjoying the bike more the more I ride it - it engenders a different, more relaxed pace - perfect for exploring.

Eric, your Appaloosa with Ortho bars was an insipiration for me, so your words mean a lot!

Jay - funny you mention C&L, because this frame actually made its way to me from them! They are super nice people and I love what they're doing with bikes (obviously).

Tim Tetrault

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Jun 11, 2024, 10:39:11 AM6/11/24
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You definitely aren't alone in feeling the "Surly needs spacers" comfort/discomfort issue. It looks like the brand is course correcting with current models, perhaps.

Congrats on the Riv. 

Valerie Yates

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Jun 18, 2024, 7:06:08 PM6/18/24
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Love this post and the gorgeous pictures. I too had a Surly Straggler for loaded touring prior to getting a first round of Appaloosa. The view and comfort from the Appa was huge upgrade. Sold the Surly immediately and never looked back. I felt Straggler was a very apt name for that sluggish frame. The Appa shines as a touring bike. Love the purple. Congrats. Hope you will share more of your bike and scenery pics. 

Dan

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Jun 19, 2024, 7:10:49 AM6/19/24
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Valerie, it's comforting to hear that others have made the same journey as me.
My Straggler has found its place in my stable as the drop-bar and fendered bike. I like having the option to ride drops! To further differentiate it from the Appaloosa, though, I've removed the rear rack and added a front low-rider rack, shaving about 1kg of weight in the process.

I'll share more photos as it reaches its final form. I'm still waiting on the dynamo light install, and I've swapped out the light and fast (but fragile) Panaracer Driver Pro tyres for Ultradynamico Mars Robustos. Oh, and I bought an Ortlieb Quick Rack rear rack to use on the bike, which fits PERFECTLY, is sturdy, and really is as easy to put on / remove as they claim.

With the new tyres:
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The Quick Rack:
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Roberta

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Jun 19, 2024, 9:44:48 AM6/19/24
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Dan,

The Appa looks great. I had one and loved its dreamy ride. I’m sure you’ll have lots of wonderful comfortable adventures. 

Roberta

Valerie Yates

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Jun 19, 2024, 10:18:36 AM6/19/24
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I like drop bars, just not the Straggler.  It was pretty and took 650b wheels but felt heavy and dull to me. Mine was small (51?). Might be better in larger sizes. Mine felt stiff and stout and had no glide.  

Your bike looks better and better. Curious to learn your opinion of those tires. They look very capable. How do they ride?  I have Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on mine. Feels very Cadillac. Curious too about the quick rack. I like to have the rack mounted to the eyelets. Not sure the benefit of mounting to the seat post. Is that the quick part? 

chintan jadwani

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Jun 19, 2024, 11:36:09 AM6/19/24
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Lovely write-up. Thanks for sharing :)
I have a purple Surly Troll that i was initially very skeptical of but over time I have grown to love the color. 
I always think abour what Riv bike get, when I can, and your mail makes a convincing case for an Appalosa!

Kim H.

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Jun 19, 2024, 12:00:02 PM6/19/24
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@Dan,

Very well written report !  Thank-you for sharing.
I am happy for you that you are enjoying your new Appaloosa.
Long may you ride and explore to brighter smiles and joy in your personal Outback.

Cheers to you from the PNW !

Kim Hetzel.
52cm Clem "L".

Dan

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Jun 21, 2024, 11:38:59 PM6/21/24
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Thank you all again for your kind words. Reading your comments makes me want to go adventure on the bike even more - which is saying something!

@Kim, @Roberta - long rides, brighter smiles and comfortable adventures - I like that. Yes please.

@Chintanjadwani - I was skeptical on the purple too and I have no idea why. It's so good.

@Valerie - I've just come back from a ~25km loop of the dirt trails in our local parklands. The tyres handled the terrain with aplomb. They were confidence inspiring and supple enough at 25psi. I like that the Robusto casing is of a decent weight, which gives me confidence that they won't let me down in my explorations. Having said that, I'm also curious as to whether there would be any ride quality or durability differences of the JFF casing.

The quick rack is fantastic. Yes, it straps to the seat tube and clicks on with levers to little knobs you leave on the lower eyelets. Though it takes only  ~10-15s to put on or take off, it's very sturdy and is rated to 20kg. I only put it on when I want to use it. I've found the Appaloosa takes to loaded rear panniers very very well - I don't even notice they are there!

I can't disagree about how the Straggler feels too ha. I think that's also its strength. It feels indestructible. Having said that, I do dream of a more spritely drop-bar bike that fits ~40mm tyres, fenders, and doesn't need a stack of spacers to get the bars right. One day...

Billy Brazelton

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Jun 24, 2024, 2:22:54 AM6/24/24
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Hello!
This thread has inspired me to make my first post to this group. I enjoyed reading your bike history, Dan, as I have a similar evolution from Surly to Rivendell. I'm a first-time Riv owner and still grinning - I also have a brand new purple Appaloosa! I was also skeptical of the purple and initially wanted the green color, but I have to admit that the purple looks really good in person. I also have the Uncle Ron's Ortho bars and love them. And I deliberated for a long time about getting the Ortlieb Quick Rack or a rear rack that better fits the Riv style. Ultimately I decided for the Quick Rack, and I think it was the right choice because I love being able to take it off and put it back on again so quickly. Sometimes I switch it out multiple times in the same day, depending on what I'm doing. I typically use the rack, together with the mud guard and mud flap, when I'm pulling a trailer in order to protect the passengers and cargo from spraying mud.

The bike was built up by Christoph at Just La Vie Cyclery in Augsburg, Germany, and he did a fantastic job. I highly recommend him for anyone in Europe.

Other details:
  • Frame is 60cm. My PBH is 92, and standover is only a problem when I have something very tall loaded on top of the rear rack. While riding, the size feels perfect, especially with the sweeping Ortho Bars.
  • SON28 hub dynamo and Edelux II. The vibration from the dynamo is surprisingly noticeable, even at lower speeds. After much reading and consulting with Christoph, it seems that this is normal and due to the extra strong magnets.
  • Rear hub is White Industries MI5
  • Silver cranks and Silver thumbie shifters
  • Shimano XTR Rapid Rise derailer rescued by Christoph from ebay
  • Deore XT front derailes
  • Paul Motolites and Love levers
  • Velocity Cliffhanger rims
  • Ultradynamico Mars - a little loud on pavement but velvety smooth and grippy on everything else
  • Mark's M1 front rack looks great and also supports the absolutely gigantic front bag that Bags by Bird made for me



Billy Brazelton

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Jun 24, 2024, 4:01:40 AM6/24/24
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Here are photos of my purple Appaloosa.

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Dan

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Jun 24, 2024, 4:20:59 AM6/24/24
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Hi bbrazelton,

Thank you for sharing your story and build! Wow, it's uncanny how similar your build is to mine, from the bars, front and rear racks, kickstand, rims and even tyres (though I see you have the race version)! My Edelux light goes on later this week ;)

I had the same dilemma with the rear rack but ultimately decided that it doesn't really matter what the rack looks like when there are bags on, and when I'm not planning to use bags then there will be no rack!

What stem are you using with the Ortho bars?

Billy Brazelton

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Jun 24, 2024, 9:00:16 AM6/24/24
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Agreed, very similar! Christoph chose the Nitto "Smallux" stem (10 cm), and it looks perfect with the bars. I can feel the natural suspension from the stem plus bars, though I really need to tighten down the faceplate to keep the bars from slipping.

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Jun 24, 2024, 9:31:20 AM6/24/24
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Sorry, I meant just tighten the clamp, no faceplate.

Dan

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Just came back to say I finally have my dynamo lights installed (Edelux II front, B+M micro rear).
I also notice vibrations, but for me it's at higher speeds. It's not bothering me so far - it's just a thing that happens. I love how much useable light the front light puts out though, and the rear is surprisingly visible for its size.
Oh, and mounting the shifters upside down has significantly increased the versatility of the bars. I can now rest my hands right up the grips near the lever clamp, which puts my weight just that little bit more forward when I want to and settles the handling nicely. I'm going to try out some ESI chunkys as a next change. It's fun to keep tweaking and dialing in the ride!

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