WTB: Roadeo or Roadini 58 to 61 or so

[Adam Kimball]

Title says it all and I know it's a bit of a long shot. But if you have a clean bike somewhere between 58-61cm, let me know.

Thanks!

Adam

[Jingy]

Are you looking for a complete or a frameset?

I have a 61 Orange Roadini that I have been seriously considering moving along.

Jim in Mpls

[Johnny Alien]

The orange is the fastest one.

[ak]

Ideally a complete.  And ideally orange.

-Adam

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[Adam Kimball]

Quick correction - Looking for a 57 Roadini.  I didn't realize how much upslope the top tube has.  A 61 Roadeo would still interest me though!

Thanks,

Adam

[Yankeebird]

Explain your decision to size down to me, please. Educate me. I had been toying with the idea of a 61cm Roadini-- pbh 91. Wouldn't the upslope make you think larger size as effective reach would be shorter? Help me out on this, honest question. Doesn't have to be Adam if someone else knows the answer.

[Joe Bernard]

The way to think of it is two road frames with about the same reach or effective toptube, but the Roadeo has a flat tube reaching back to a taller seattube and the Roadini has a toptube that drops down to a shorter seattube. It's actually a downslope, not upslope. 

For instance to correlate to my height: I would ride a 53 or 55 cm Roadeo and a 50 cm Roadini. Similar reach to the bars, but I would have more standover clearance on the Roadini. 

[Yankeebird]

But wouldn't size wise the 61 correlate to the effective height, as opposed to the actual height of the shorter seattube?

[Yankeebird]

OH I see I just went to the geometry page for the 61 and it's 62 to the top of the tube... ok gotcha. So the 61 is a pretty decent size bike, even for me.

[Yankeebird]

The effective reach on my 60cm Surly CC is 60.0, the 61cm Roadini almost the same, 5mm bigger. The CC is a smidge too long for me, the height is good, but my T-Rex arms needed a new fork with uncut steerer tube and the shortest highest adjustable stem I could find at the time and it was never quite right. Interesting. The seat tube lengths seem to comparable between the two, as do the angles. Very similar bikes... interesting!  

[Joe Bernard]

Indeed, Riv sizing can get quite confusing because they're still labeling them according to seattube length. In this crazy modern world of sloping toptubes an older 54cm Atlantis fits like a newer 51cm, rendering sizing by seattube the wrong way to go. The trick is to look - as you subsequently did - at geometry charts and pick a frame whose reach works for you. 

Joe Bernard