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Jason Fuller

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Jan 2, 2020, 8:20:43 PM1/2/20
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Rivendell frame number two showed up today... a Clem Smith Jr for daily commuting, errands, and general around-town usage. I think of it as the new weekday bike, while my Sam Hillborne (only purchased a few months ago as well) is the weekend bike for bigger adventures.

Despite all the spending lately, this is an effort to simplify my bike quiver by building a couple no-compromise bikes rather than a handful of compromise bikes.

Assembly today went smoothly except two issues; one, the folks at Riv installed the BB with such force that I very, very nearly stripped it trying to remove it (I was transferring a SRAM BB over) and the seatpost lug is reamed oversize, so even with the bolt tightened as much as physically possible I can rotate the seat by hand pretty easily. The latter problem might require a 27.0 seatpost to replace the 26.8. I'm a bit disappointed by that, but I can't wait to ride this bike!
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Joe Bernard

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Jan 2, 2020, 8:41:04 PM1/2/20
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Two notes about your frame.

1. Those BBs are (I believe, I don't think Mark would do that) installed in Taiwan and they are indeed a BUGGER to remove.

2. Your seattube isn't too big, your post is too small. I've had a few of those MIT frames with the slipping post problem and each was solved by a 26.8 Nitto. At this point I consider those frames to come with a temporary post. You need Nitto!

Ed Carolipio

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Jan 2, 2020, 9:37:30 PM1/2/20
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Grats on the bikes. On the seatpost, you can try using an aluminum soda can as a shim to fill the gap without having to get a new seat post. (Others may have ideas on thin shimming materials as well.) Also, "carbon assembly paste" can help get stiction between the tube/shim/seatpost to help with slippage. They're available in trial (one shot) sizes from bike shops that sell CF bikes.

--Ed C.

Jim M.

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Jan 2, 2020, 9:42:17 PM1/2/20
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I have a slipping post on my new Clem too. Vince told me a 27 won't fit. He said they could knurl the post to fix the problem. Luckily they're just down the street from me so I'm going to stop by and let them knurl away. Give them a call. They'll help.

jim m
wc, ca

Timothy Hurley

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Jan 2, 2020, 10:20:35 PM1/2/20
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+1 on the soda can shim. That’s a bummer about the seat tube.

Benz, Sunnyvale, CA

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Jan 3, 2020, 12:28:38 AM1/3/20
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On Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 5:41:04 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
Two notes about your frame.

1. Those BBs are (I believe, I don't think Mark would do that) installed in Taiwan and they are indeed a BUGGER to remove.


If your square taper Shimano-splined BB is hard to remove, try this. It holds the splines together firmly and doesn't allow them to slip.

Joe Bernard

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Jan 3, 2020, 12:30:13 AM1/3/20
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The bummer is the seatpost Riv sources in Taiwan. I'll bet money that sucker is actually 26.7, they all require being cranked down hard and I've had several that still slipped anyway. The Nitto 26.8 in both types Riv sells are physically bigger posts.

Ed Fausto

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Jan 3, 2020, 12:46:56 AM1/3/20
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Thanks for the "Tacx T4415 Cartridge Tool" tip.
Will definitely get one for my tool kit.
It's definitely a bugger to remove specially if the threads of the bottom bracket were not chased before installation.

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Garth

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Jan 3, 2020, 3:31:59 AM1/3/20
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Are you using a long lever like a breaker bar ?  I have a 24" one and at first I thought I had gotten one too long ...... hah !  ..... it was perfect ! 

Jason Fuller

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Jan 4, 2020, 12:22:45 AM1/4/20
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Here are some photos of my initial build of the Clem from a buddy who takes nice photos (photog for the Radavist and others)



John McClusky

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Jan 4, 2020, 6:01:07 AM1/4/20
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Beautiful photos. Looks great in the graffiti’ed skatepark. What bars are those?

I love that people are invoking the soda can shim. Fond memories of “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance” (beer can rather than soda).

John
Niles, CA

Bob Ehrenbeck

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Jan 5, 2020, 1:47:23 PM1/5/20
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I recently had some difficulty trying to remove a BB from an old bike, as the tool kept flying off the splines whenever torque was applied. So, I used a long bolt, and a couple of nuts and washers to keep the tool/BB interface together and tight, and it worked like a charm.

Bob E
Cranford, NJ

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hugh flynn

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Jan 5, 2020, 3:59:49 PM1/5/20
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Yup! That's the way to do it.

Just remember to loosen the bolt a bit with each turn on the removable cup side since the cup is moving out against the bolt as you unscrew it. 

Hugh Flynn 
Newburyport, MA

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