135mm hub rear wheel in a roadini?

[Brenton Eastman]

I am considering buying a Roadini frame to build up with a mix of new/old/bin parts.

I have a Velocity Dyad/Deore/SP dynamo wheelset I used on my Sam Hillborne and I'm wondering if that's a safe/doable option to put on a Roadini.

[Eric Daume]

I had a Roadini and attempted to put my 135mm ENO hub in the back. It was a no go—the frame was too stiff to bend out. Maybe being the eccentric hub made this more difficult. 

By comparison, I had no issue putting a 135mm hub in my old 130mm BMC Monstercross, or a 130mm hub in my 126mm old road bikes. 

Eric

On Sunday, December 17, 2023, Brenton Eastman <brenton...@gmail.com> wrote:

I am considering buying a Roadini frame to build up with a mix of new/old/bin parts.

I have a Velocity Dyad/Deore/SP dynamo wheelset I used on my Sam Hillborne and I'm wondering if that's a safe/doable option to put on a Roadini.

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[Guy LeVan]

Great question, and I’ve had a different result.  I’ve got a Silver Hub (only available in 135 mm) laced to a Velocity Dyad, and it fit easily into my Sergio Green Roadini frame, without much fuss.  2.5 mm on each side is not much.  No mechanical spreading, etc.  in fact, the silver hub was really no more difficult to install in the Roadini than it was in my Rambouillet, which has a 132.5 mm rear spacing, and was marketed to work with both 130 mm and 135 mm hubs. 

Am I making a mistake here, and possibly damaging my Roadini frame?  I like the extra strength of the 135mm hub.  Thoughts….

Guy

On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 5:52:53 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:

I had a Roadini and attempted to put my 135mm ENO hub in the back. It was a no go—the frame was too stiff to bend out. Maybe being the eccentric hub made this more difficult. 

By comparison, I had no issue putting a 135mm hub in my old 130mm BMC Monstercross, or a 130mm hub in my 126mm old road bikes. 

Eric

On Sunday, December 17, 2023, Brenton Eastman <brenton...@gmail.com> wrote:

I am considering buying a Roadini frame to build up with a mix of new/old/bin parts.

I have a Velocity Dyad/Deore/SP dynamo wheelset I used on my Sam Hillborne and I'm wondering if that's a safe/doable option to put on a Roadini.

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[John Dewey]

Spread all frames but one, which I had built @ 135, from 130 to 135 quite easily. My experiences suggest it requires patience and a bit of bravado—the spread to get that extra 5mm was/is quite startling. But as I had / have settled on 135 which is—theoretically at least—stronger thanks to reduced dishing, I needed to make it all work. Along the way, I hoarded XTR hubsets and even managed to find cones etc.

BTW, if any of you have XTR spares—front or rear—you need to part with to generate cash, let me know off-list.

Jock

[Bill Lindsay]

There's nothing wrong with shoving a 135mm rear wheel into a 130mm frame.  If it were me, I'd respace my 135mm rear wheel to 130mm and re-dish the wheel, but I'm a mechanic and I have the axles in my workshop.  Likely nothing bad will happen if you take the short cut, but it's always OK to do things right, if you have the time to spend.  

Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito, CA

[R. Alexis]

Check with Rivendell to see if this a safe option. I would think it is. I have a mix of both 130 and 135 OLD bikes in the mix with a few 140mm. My 1987 Schwinn Voyageur is 130mm that I have a 132.5 wheelset mounted on. Pretty sure the frame was 126mm OLD prior to me getting it. Settled on that on the wheel to give me the option of going in a 130 or 135mm OLD frame. I have about several bikes with 130mm OLD. Bridgestone MB-0 (Zip), Bridgestone XO-1, Bianchi Perigrine, Schwinn High Plains Aluminum and the Schwinn Voyageur. Wanted to spread the Zip to 135, but was cautioned not to. The Schwinn High Plains Aluminum is a no go because of the aluminum. Both Zip and XO-1 are using Mavic Paris Gao Dakar  hubs. Bianchi is rolling on some Specialized sealed bearing freewheel hubs and the Schwinn is rolling on Shimano Deore DX hubs I swapped out axles and redished down to 130mm OLD. Voyageur is running Suntour Superbe Pro. 

Thanks,

Reginald Alexis

[John Dewey]

John Dewey	10:13 AM (0 minutes ago)
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BTW, regarding spreading the rear. 

Just a word of caution, not sure I'd advise this unless you're adventurous and/or experienced...or crazy. 

Or all of the above. And, as always, YMMV.

Jock

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[Johnny Alien]

If you have parts that work for 135 rear and you are not setting it up for roadie riding (which I am just guessing because of the dynamo wheelset) then it might make sense to try a different Riv frame. The main difference with the Roadini is a slightly more road oriented geometry. And even that is probably minimal in comparison to industry road bikes. There is so much crossover that I don't think you will miss much going to a different frame like a Homer.

[Will Boericke]

I've lost count of the number of frames whose rear triangles I've spread.  The first was a drawn-out, hourlong affair but these days its 5 minutes, a 2x4 and Bob's-your-uncle.  I wouldn't hesitate to do it in this situation.

Also innumerable are the frames that I've just jammed a larger hub into.  Makes roadside repairs a little annoying, but it works.

Will

[Brenton Eastman]

I suppose I should have mentioned it would be a 57cm frame. Love the mix of reviews+experience. Thanks all!