Atlantis date indicators

[dylan green]

Hi everyone - 

currently speaking with a seller of an atlantis 2 - dated 2011. This has the cream accent panel on the seat tube. My old atlantis had a 2 but no cream accent panel. Just to clarify, the 2 on the seat tubes does mean both are the 'Atlantis 2'? Given it's 2011 - would this be Toyo? It has the more ornate lugs...

[Ryan]

2011 could be Waterford 

[Greg J]

The serial number would give you a definitive answer.  Or if you’re concerned about revealing the entire number, just the orientation around the bb and general letter/number sequence. 

[Brian Turner]

Look at the serial number on the BB shell. If the serial number wraps around the edge of the shell, it’s probably Waterford. If the number goes across (from L to R), then it’s probably Toyo. Also, Toyo should start with AT.

My 2008 Toyo has the ornate, pointy lugs and lots of white detailing. I also have the “2” insignia inside a cream panel. My downtube “Atlantis” graphic also sports a tiny “2” in superscript next to the S.

On Nov 10, 2023, at 5:57 PM, Ryan <ryte...@mts.net> wrote:

2011 could be Waterford 

On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-6 dylantho...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi everyone - 

currently speaking with a seller of an atlantis 2 - dated 2011. This has the cream accent panel on the seat tube. My old atlantis had a 2 but no cream accent panel. Just to clarify, the 2 on the seat tubes does mean both are the 'Atlantis 2'? Given it's 2011 - would this be Toyo? It has the more ornate lugs...

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[R. Alexis]

A Waterford built Rivendell Atlantis will have a distinctive rear frame drop out. I think Henry James rear drop outs. The first Rivendell built there didn't. Grant has drop outs made specifically for the bikes. Looks like they went with the Waterford standard ones on the Atlantis. This is at least what I have noticed when looking at Atlantis frames/bikes out of Waterford. 

Thanks,

Reginald  Alexis

On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-6 dylantho...@gmail.com wrote:

[dylan green]

Thanks everyone. To build on this, was there any difference in the chainstay lengths between what I guess is considered the 1 and the 2 in question?

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A Waterford built Rivendell Atlantis will have a distinctive rear frame drop out. I think Henry James rear drop outs. The first Rivendell built there didn't. Grant has drop outs made specifically for the bikes. Looks like they went with the Waterford standard ones on the Atlantis. This is at least what I have noticed when looking at Atlantis frames/bikes out of Waterford. 

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[Brian Turner]

Unless I’m mistaken, the “Atlantis 2” is what Grant decided to call it when the Rivendell Atlantis was conceived. This was because the original Atlantis - or “1” for the purposes of this discussion - was a Bridgestone offering.

On Nov 10, 2023, at 6:15 PM, dylan green <dylantho...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks everyone. To build on this, was there any difference in the chainstay lengths between what I guess is considered the 1 and the 2 in question?

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